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Google's weather feature on Android does this :) They don't call it "high" and "low", instead calling it "day" and "night".
What if the low temperature is forecast to be at noon?
> Day 58°↑ • Night 48°↓
Maybe the arrows are used to indicate the high and low?
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> So if Apple products are “user hostile” then why are enough users happily spending twice as much on iPhones and more on Macs They aren't all "happy" about it, but as I mentioned in the post you replied to, there is not a decent alternative. > Maybe their decisions are only hostile to geeks who want to run Linux on the Apple Pencil. Certainly not but one would have to be interested in the fact of the matter to reali…
There is an alternative - 85% of phone users choose Android.
Indeed, seems they are not "happy" to buy Apple.
> There is an alternative
I mentioned this twice, it is also notoriously inadequate and user-hostile as well. Do you have anything to add to the discussion?
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>I don't know what their problem is, but it seems to me that it would have been no problem to allow the app to continue to exist as a standalone one while supposedly "integrating" it into whatever Apple's weather app is. Shot in the dark - Apple wants you to live and die within Apple's ecosystem, using only Apple products. Doesn't matter if they own Dark Sky, it's not "Apple Weather", and that's what they want - iThi…
Counterpoint: the Beats and Shazam brands still exist.
Shazam, I can only take a stab at this one. Perhaps it's a name thing? "Nobody", eg the public at large (so, set aside the passionate Dark Sky love you see in this thread), gives a shit about weather apps, at least on a broad scale. The default option is fine. You don't say, "Dark Sky it", you say, "Check the weather". When you wanna know what's playing, most people say, "Shazam it". Apple and Android integration of this into Siri/search came way later, far after "Shazam it" became the standard phrase. There's no "obvious" replacement, like there is with the default weather app.
It was a masterpiece. Apple deleting Dark Sky something I will never forgive them for. Maybe not enough to make me switch phones, but enough to make me look elsewhere when needing peripheral items. The statement that Dark Sky features were incorporated into the native weather app was an insult. I know I sound dramatic talking about a weather app, but it was in a class of its own and nothing else is remotely comparabl…
Any good alternatives since?
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There is an alternative - 85% of phone users choose Android.
> 85% of phone users choose Android. Indeed, seems they are not "happy" to buy Apple. > There is an alternative I mentioned this twice, it is also notoriously inadequate and user-hostile as well. Do you have anything to add to the discussion?
Your thesis was that Apple customers were not happy to buy Apple products…
> is also notoriously inadequate and user-hostile as well
Your second thesis was there was no decent alternative.
Well, if so many people are unhappy with both iOS and Android, I’m sure they can but something like PinePhone.
Or maybe most people don’t care about running a full open source stack on the Apple Pencil?
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What if the low temperature is forecast to be at noon?
Then you live in Antarctica, it's winter, and you're out of scope.
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I’m confused why the daily minimum would include times outside the day. That doesn’t seem like a daily minimum by definition. The way Apple does it is exactly how I assumed it would work. Is the alternative you described standard?
It becomes useless when it was 32 degrees at midnight. But now, as I sit here on a Thursday morning, it shows the low for today as 28 degrees and tomorrow as 40 degrees. What will I need to wear Friday morning when I go out? Will it be closer to 40 or continue dropping and be closer to freezing? Is it safe to put my sensitive plants back outside? Perhaps it shows 28 again but is that for early Friday morning or late…
Can’t you just check Friday’s temps? I’m not sure why you’d expect this info out of Thursday.
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> In almost all cases the coldest part of the day is right around dawn. Probably true, and yet the counterexamples are when the temperature forecast is particularly important when I'm choosing what to wear. Any simplification of the temperature forecast into daily lows and highs will fail certain use cases, so I think it's very reasonable to make the daily lows and highs as well- and simply-defined as possible and pr…
Given that the suns movements are pretty predictable, it seems suboptimal to define counter to something that happens almost every day.
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Can I just piggyback on this to shit on the iOS Weather app for a moment? Whoever designed it doesn't understand the concept of daily max/min temperatures, and the daily low presented in the app is the lowest during that calendar day, rather than the forecast overnight low following the day. It drives me absolutely mad, because I can never reliably determine how cold it will get overnight without going into the hourl…
Companies solve their own problems. Outlook is one of the classic examples of that - it was an app that was a cultural snapshot of Microsoft. In the case of Apple, Cupertino is a pretty boring weather locale. Sometimes you need to zipper your coat and once in awhile it rains.
Which also explains why iPhone headphone wires get brittle in moderately cold weather, and iPhones go into thermal shutdown mode at temperatures that are common in places like Arizona, New Mexico, Nevada, and the non-Bay Area parts of California.
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I’m confused why the daily minimum would include times outside the day. That doesn’t seem like a daily minimum by definition. The way Apple does it is exactly how I assumed it would work. Is the alternative you described standard?
It's very rare that I need to know about what the weather was like a few hours in the past.
The daily low is the lowest temp of the day. It could very well be in the future. But it’s certainly not in the next day, and it’s not from a specific hour. If you want to see tomorrow mornings temps look at tomorrow’s hourly temps.
Do you expect the daily high to work the same? So maybe at 4pm it’s down from the daily high and now it shows today’s high is actually some temp around 3pm tomorrow?
I get what you’re saying but in no way is that a daily high. More like a next 24 hour high but even then, do you want that? That means if it’s 80F at 3pm today and 90F at 3pm tomorrow and it’s 3pm, then the high will be 90.
It’s much easier to just accurately categorize these by day/hour and let the user find what they care about instead of warping definitions to anticipate certain use cases.