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Ohio train derailment: environmental disaster quietly unfolding

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Re: Ohio train derailment: environmental disaster quietly unfolding

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I've heard about this, but it is surprising how little coverage it gets compared to other things. If you were to tally up how much airtime each news story gets, plotted against the general tone of the coverage, you'd probably come up with something resembling the news room agenda (you'd also have to weigh it against other stories developing at around the same time). I have to wonder why a story of environmental disas…

I wonder about who is pushing narratives about this vs. the balloons in an attempt to distract the public, but I can explain why the derailment isn't much of a story.

It's because it's being handled fairly well. There is a cloud of smoke that's scaring people, but it's "ordinary" smoke. There's no environmental apocalypse that's going to make that town "uninhabitable". There will be after effects from everything associated with an industrial accident, including economic and legal repercussions, but the actual accident is being managed.

People seem very ignorant of the science involved with the situation and very accepting of conspiracy narratives, which is unfortunately no surprise given the last 6 years in this country.

Re: Ohio train derailment: environmental disaster quietly unfolding

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

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I am intrigued by your outrage (seriously). I'm curious to know what you are hoping the world's media will accomplish there? On the one hand train derailment, chemical fire, environmental damage - it makes for a story but really not a terribly interesting one (to me). It's certainly an unwelcome event, but there doesn't seem to be anything deeper than what you see on the surface. Is there a deeper story here? Is ther…

Completely valid question. It seems like a pretty big situation. Those usually get tons of press coverage, presidential visits, cabinet-level management, and media scrutiny of all parties involved. This is how problems get solved, and, one hopes, prevented in the future. It’s why planes are so safe. When I was young crashes were much more frequent.

I don’t know why Rihanna gets way more attention than Ohio. Or Flint, Michigan.

Genuinely interested in your feedback.

Re: Ohio train derailment: environmental disaster quietly unfolding

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Evidently this briefly hit the mass tv news cycle then went silent... This deserves wide scale attention... Pollution and toxic destruction needs to trigger a commensurate fine both for clean up and punitive damages sufficient to motivate big business to proactively avoid these events Looks like media has been told to drop this story... Or even worse to self censor anything outside it's allowed news topic criteria

What media? I saw it on CNN today. Fox News's website has multiple stories about this from the last hour. The only place where the train stuff seems underrepresented is on some of the big subreddits (which are echo chambers already, so not surprising)

> The only place where the train stuff seems underrepresented is on some of the big subreddits (which are echo chambers already, so not surprising)

Huh? https://www.reddit.com/r/news/search/?q=ohio&include_over_18...

Re: Ohio train derailment: environmental disaster quietly unfolding

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Then maybe this isn't about you, specifically? How are the mainstream media dealing with it?

> How are the mainstream media dealing with it? Apparently CNN reported on this 8 days ago[0] (when it happened). Fox is running coverage live as we speak[1]. If there is any evidence of a cover-up, it has yet to be presented. [0] https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/05/us/east-palestine-ohio-train-... [1] https://www.foxnews.com/us/ohio-train-derailment-prompts-wat...

Nothing on the NY Times front page as 11:09 EST 02-13-2023

Re: Ohio train derailment: environmental disaster quietly unfolding

#187

I got to know, do the pro nuclear crowd really want to live down wind of a nuclear power plant when they will be run by the same business processes and deregulation that lead to this disaster, Fukushima, the BP oil rig disaster, etc?

I got to know, do the pro coal crowd really want to live down wind of a coal power plant when they will be run by the same business processes and deregulation that lead to this disaster, Fukushima, the BP oil rig disaster, etc?

The 'pro nuclear' crowd that say idiotic shit like this are the pro coal crowd.

Re: Ohio train derailment: environmental disaster quietly unfolding

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On my mainstream media outlet of choice, I’m pretty sure there has been a front page headline about the derailment at least half of the days since it occurred. This “quietly” “they don’t want you to know” meme is just bullshit superiority cynicism and/or clickbait.

Re: Ohio train derailment: environmental disaster quietly unfolding

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Does the NTSB look into train derailments? Would be interesting to see whether the systems engineering for trains hauling large quantities of industrial chemicals is on par with that of airlines. If not, it probably should be.

There are defect detectors on rail lines, "hot box" detectors [1] [2], that are infrared detectors used to observe and report bearing failures on a train. My understanding of the situation is that with the current rail labor configuration, railroad workers are only permitted ~90 seconds to verify the operational capacity of the wheelset on a rail car vs a previous average of 3 minutes. Also, more importantly, someone…

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Re: Ohio train derailment: environmental disaster quietly unfolding

#190

This is fine but we can't have nuclear reactors.

There’s a couple just a few miles down the road from this derailment.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beaver_Valley_Nuclear_Power_...

And fun fact, this is also where the worlds first civilian nuclear power plant was built.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shippingport_Atomic_Power_St...

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