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Site creator here! Thanks to all who spent some time reading and scrolling through. I’m happy to see such great discussion here, and gives me some confidence the excerpts pulled were the right ones to get the core ideas across.

The site forces me to use a calendar widget to input my birth date. I have to scroll over 30 years back in time by months.

At least on android you can tap the year and get a year ticker/roller input. You definitely don't need to scroll month by month.

Re: Four thousand weeks

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I’m impressed by the beauty of this site and sophistication of the UI. However I _hate_ this type of messaging that does nothing for you except make your mental health worse. I don’t want to think about how many weeks of life I have left! Inducing existential dread is NOT what any of us need to start living our lives more fully (which I assume is the intent of this site). You wanna zone out on YouTube? Go for it. Tha…

Tbh I don’t think you understood the goal of this post. The idea, to me, is to remind the reader of how precious life is, and to be mindful of how you’re spending it. Whether you think about it or try to ignore it, time is ticking by at the same speed. I’m only 25 but I’ve wasted way too much time on Reddit, YouTube, and even HN, in my opinion. > As with all things, moderation. Sure, but in my anecdotal experience th…

Tbh I’m sick of these supposedly well-intentioned “reminders” to be better, to not “waste time”, and so on: for most people they demonstrably don’t work, as evidenced by the fact that out of one thousand people that know it applies to them, only a handful will do something about it. While the rest will verbally acknowledge it, will fret about it in their minds, and yet will do nothing about it.

If one individual fails to change, that’s their problem: if a method of change doesn’t work for the vast majority of people, then the problem is with the method.

Just my pet theory here but I don’t think that most people can just get off reddit because they have only X weeks left; can lose weight because they know they are eight kilograms overweight; can start exercising because someone told them something bad will happen to them in twenty years if they don’t; can start socializing because someone told them that in studies XYZ, people who are lonely are 90% more likely die of pancreatic cancer… it’s all completely backwards.

Because you know what makes people do anything? A purpose, goal, or meaning. By trying to “get the most out of my remaining 2800 weeks” like some little optimizing robot, you’re trying to improve “in life” (who wants to be a loser in life right) by doing the equivalent of maintaining your garden by removing all the weeds with a tweezer; already having some kind of purpose is what compels people to lose weight and to focus their time, because they might need that time to fulfill their purpose, they might need to lose weight in order to be fit enough to do what they need to do, and so on.

I also notice that having a purpose has a large impact on getting through the day. Because then everything I do, I do in support of that purpose. But when I lack a purpose? Then most things are mundane, robotic, tedious checklists. Things I do in order to avoid things like maybe possibly getting pancreatic cancer in thirty years time.

Re: Four thousand weeks

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A sad indictment on modern society that this paragraph is able to be written.

John Wick here. please be nice. you probably never had a dog - i hope you will one day and experience the joy of such a companionship.

I have a dog and still find very uncanny to compare a baby human being to a puppy. A symptom of an ill society.

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Tbh I don’t think you understood the goal of this post. The idea, to me, is to remind the reader of how precious life is, and to be mindful of how you’re spending it. Whether you think about it or try to ignore it, time is ticking by at the same speed. I’m only 25 but I’ve wasted way too much time on Reddit, YouTube, and even HN, in my opinion. > As with all things, moderation. Sure, but in my anecdotal experience th…

I’m 45. Wife. Kid. The works. Painfully aware of how precious life is. 20 years ago when I was your age (which btw feels like only a few years ago…) this type of content resonated a lot more with me. I assume it was because the concept of aging was still pretty abstract. Now I’m in the shit so to speak. My point is that I’ve seen a million of these. Hell I’ve read 4K weeks! You’ll get no argument from me that spendin…

> I’m 45. Wife. Kid. The works.

Should someone who is 45 years of age who has none of those things perhaps visit that website?

Re: Four thousand weeks

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The back stage pass to stuff you’d be embarrassed to do (or not think off doing) without kids is pretty cool too! Floor is lava, water parks, toy shops etc.

The other ones I can maybe understand, but why would I be embarrassed to go to water parks?

Some are indeed impressive, large and full of long queues of older children and their adults but some are decidedly kiddie!

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If you kept your diary secret and wrote it for yourself, it would probably be more useful.

Writing it online where others can see it can make it easier to motivate yourself. At least for some people.

What is the goal? Reminds me of intrinsic vs extrinsic motivation. If the goal is personal development, that should be intrinsic and not need outsider validation.

The type of shit I write in a journal is not the type of stuff I want people to read. It is internally processing and organizing thoughts and private matters. It is shower thoughts all the way through processing relationships and emotions. My family, for instance, doesn't need to know half-thought out things that would offend them. Maybe later those journal entries would help me with a difficult conversation with them or serve as a jumping point for a "real" article or post. Most are just private.

Re: Four thousand weeks

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Site creator here! Thanks to all who spent some time reading and scrolling through. I’m happy to see such great discussion here, and gives me some confidence the excerpts pulled were the right ones to get the core ideas across.

Thank you for making this, also one of the most impactful books I read last year. And last but not least, thank you for GraphQL and your contribution to the open source community!

Re: Four thousand weeks

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There are a few ways people take such a message - yes, life is precious, be conscious of what we invest our time in. This part makes sense. Yet, it is worth asking, what makes for a meaning life? What makes the 4000 weeks worth it? For some, they chase wealth, power, career success, get one's name recognized, etc - these are milestones to be achieved. Things to accomplish. Others will say, such accomplishments are no…

> So what's my point? The point is, whatever pursuits we undertake with the belief out there that something that I accomplish, accumulate or experience will bring me happiness and fulfillment is a futile endeavor. I recently came across a term for this. Telic vs. atelic activities [0]. Telic activities are things with some terminal state, e.g. a typical goal-oriented project, or something like the act of getting marr…

He talks about telic vs atelic activities in Four Thousand Weeks, taken from the book Midlife. Highly recommend both.

Re: Four thousand weeks

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I think it's more of the stoic "memento mori" intention. Make sure your time is well spent.

But what counts as well spent? That’s always my biggest stumbling block with this topic.

I believe every single person must define that for themselves, and should be a definition specific for a short timeframe, it is useless to think about an "end-goal-well-spent" time because your opinion about what is well spent is gonna change of course

For example, for me right now an example of "time well spent" is playing with my elder cat. I try to reduce the time dedicated to every other thing today just to be able to get more of this

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No it isn’t. The two are opposites. Pleasure vs happiness,

Opposite? They are prerequisites of each other. Can't be happy without pleasure. Can't feel pleasure when unhappy.

Reminds me of the distinction between Type 1 and Type 2 fun.
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