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This Voice Doesn't Exist – Generative Voice AI

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Re: This Voice Doesn't Exist – Generative Voice AI

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Post by barking_biscuit »

snek_case wrote: post #78
vouaobrasil wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree with this completely. Technology has always made us trade quality for low-quality quantity in exchange for convenience. People now interact more through technology which removes a lot of body language and other enriching experiences. The most dangerous aspect of this is that each step seems relatively harmless: right now, ChatGPT and DALL-E are amusements, but each small step is building a monstrous and as yo…

> If I could have one single wish fulfilled in this world, it would be that every single human being gain a natural and instinctual revulsion for advanced technology. If someone asked me what disease was the worst that ever plagued humanity, it would not be smallpox or the flu or COVID, it would be the tech company. Time to go live in a cabin in the woods and go write your manifesto on a typewriter...

Typewriter? You heathen! It must be chiseled into the cave wall with a bone.

Re: This Voice Doesn't Exist – Generative Voice AI

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Post by DaedPsyker »

yieldcrv wrote: post #21
xeonmc wrote: post #17

Imagine if in-game voice chat automatically converts player speech into the voice of the character they're playing -- this would resolve a lot of the gender-based harassment problems arising from competitive games requiring vocal communication, since now _everyone's_ default is hiding the actual player's voice, contrasting the "just use a voice changer if you're a girl playing" suggestion which themselves draws atten…

I’m looking forward to NPCs having dynamic responses with real voices Doesn't have to be prerecorded, just trained

Even customisable like your character's appearance. This was one of my criticisms of Fallout 4, the voice actors weren't bad, it just didn't fit very well some player characters.

Re: This Voice Doesn't Exist – Generative Voice AI

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Post by barking_biscuit »

vouaobrasil wrote: post #70
didericis wrote: post #56

I can't tell if I'm starting to get that old person "new things are scary" instinct or if my gut level of fear about the implications of these things is warranted. As impressive as a lot of these models are, I can't help but feel like they're going to end up making an incredible amount of sterile soulless content that makes everyone's lives worse . We're already drowning in ad dominated cynical soulless computer gene…

I agree with this completely. Technology has always made us trade quality for low-quality quantity in exchange for convenience. People now interact more through technology which removes a lot of body language and other enriching experiences. The most dangerous aspect of this is that each step seems relatively harmless: right now, ChatGPT and DALL-E are amusements, but each small step is building a monstrous and as yo…

>I firmly believe (and I have given this a lot of thought) that technology is ultimately evil, and that tech companies are trading short term gain of enormous wealth for the very essence of humanity, preying upon the basic instincts of individuals who are also trading their personal worth for convenience.

I've more or less come to a pretty similar conclusion. I wouldn't characterize it as evil per se, but it's a fools errand at best. My line of thinking goes somewhat like this - before the Neolithic revolution humans had an extremely small set of problems. The main problem being "what am I going to eat?", and to a large degree, life must have revolved around this problem almost entirely. There weren't that many people, there weren't that many problems, we somehow persisted in that state for hundreds of thousands of years with literally nothing to write home about. Any advance in technology has literally been trading one problem for at least three more. Now there are loads of problems, loads more people, and the standard approach to solving all the problems is to invent new technologies, which in practice seem to actually exacerbate the problems. So, I just sort of view the current state of things as "somewhere around the turn of the Neolithic Revolution we took a wrong turn, and it has widely been regarded as a bad move."

It's a weird sort of defeatist, nihilistic, melancholy worldview, but to be honest, I don't think we're wrong. I mean... what's the endgame of technology?

Re: This Voice Doesn't Exist – Generative Voice AI

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Post by CM30 »

didericis wrote: post #56

I can't tell if I'm starting to get that old person "new things are scary" instinct or if my gut level of fear about the implications of these things is warranted. As impressive as a lot of these models are, I can't help but feel like they're going to end up making an incredible amount of sterile soulless content that makes everyone's lives worse . We're already drowning in ad dominated cynical soulless computer gene…

But at the same time, there are tons of positive uses for things like this too. Imagine being a creator who wants to share their interests with the world, but hates their own voice or doesn't have the confidence to speak on camera. You could make a lot of people's lives better by creating content for YouTube, Twitch, TikTok, Instagram, etc, but you wouldn't be brave enough to otherwise.

Something like this could be incredible for those people. A natural sounding alternative to text to speech for people who dislike how they sound.

And it could also be used to anonymise people in documentaries about serious topics (like say, organised crime) without actors, letting people bring the atrocities of said folks to light without need to trust others or the risk of being found out.

Other examples could include vTubers, artists creating characters for TV shows, films and video games, etc.

All technology can be abused, and sadly with how humanity acts, like will by a small percentage of the population. But for every person abusing it for dubious purposes, there are dozens or hundreds or thousands of others who can make the world better with it.

Re: This Voice Doesn't Exist – Generative Voice AI

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Post by CM30 »

yieldcrv wrote: post #21
xeonmc wrote: post #17

Imagine if in-game voice chat automatically converts player speech into the voice of the character they're playing -- this would resolve a lot of the gender-based harassment problems arising from competitive games requiring vocal communication, since now _everyone's_ default is hiding the actual player's voice, contrasting the "just use a voice changer if you're a girl playing" suggestion which themselves draws atten…

I’m looking forward to NPCs having dynamic responses with real voices Doesn't have to be prerecorded, just trained

This would be incredible, especially with the thousands of unique characters games often have nowadays. Imagine every NPC having a unique voice, and the ability to dynamically respond to the players?

Damn that would do a ton for immersion!

Re: This Voice Doesn't Exist – Generative Voice AI

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Post by moffkalast »

xeonmc wrote: post #17

Imagine if in-game voice chat automatically converts player speech into the voice of the character they're playing -- this would resolve a lot of the gender-based harassment problems arising from competitive games requiring vocal communication, since now _everyone's_ default is hiding the actual player's voice, contrasting the "just use a voice changer if you're a girl playing" suggestion which themselves draws atten…

That's just kind of a lame workaround that doesn't tackle the actual issue though.

Re: This Voice Doesn't Exist – Generative Voice AI

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Post by barking_biscuit »

xeonmc wrote: post #17

Imagine if in-game voice chat automatically converts player speech into the voice of the character they're playing -- this would resolve a lot of the gender-based harassment problems arising from competitive games requiring vocal communication, since now _everyone's_ default is hiding the actual player's voice, contrasting the "just use a voice changer if you're a girl playing" suggestion which themselves draws atten…

Imagine if in-game voice chat automatically converted a % of guys voices into girls voices, so they would start getting harassed, realize how awful that is, and then over time stop doing it.

Re: This Voice Doesn't Exist – Generative Voice AI

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Post by moffkalast »

piotr11 wrote: post #167
wand3r wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I work in TTS and i just dont believe this. If these really are random text and not trained on literally the copy they are reading, with no correction I would be surprised. Also, our competitors have good voices but they also take ages to produce. Maybe these really are legit but take like 1 minute to produce or something. So while this is impressive, i doubt that in practice this would be this high quality and could…

Thanks! ElevenLabs dev here - these are generated 6x faster than real-time, with latency of We are working on long-form speech synthesis too, needless to say, the audio reading the article has been also synthesized by a voice that does not exist.

Ok I think it's fair to say you're either full of shit or the world leading experts in TTS.

Re: This Voice Doesn't Exist – Generative Voice AI

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Post by shaky-carrousel »

spaceman_2020 wrote: post #151
didericis wrote: post #56

I can't tell if I'm starting to get that old person "new things are scary" instinct or if my gut level of fear about the implications of these things is warranted. As impressive as a lot of these models are, I can't help but feel like they're going to end up making an incredible amount of sterile soulless content that makes everyone's lives worse . We're already drowning in ad dominated cynical soulless computer gene…

My YouTube feed is currently filled with videos of whitehats hacking into Indian scam call centers. Most of the time, the giveaway is the callers' Indian accent. If you could simply type into a box and speak with an American accent, it would be really hard to get caught. We're opening a pandora's box here if I'm honest. I'm hardly one for pro-regulation, but good God, we're playing with things here that can really hu…

> If you could simply type into a box and speak with an American accent, it would be really hard to get caught.

Not really. If they say "kindly do something", they are Indian scammers.

Re: This Voice Doesn't Exist – Generative Voice AI

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Post by ChildOfChaos »

CM30 wrote: post #184
didericis wrote: post #56

I can't tell if I'm starting to get that old person "new things are scary" instinct or if my gut level of fear about the implications of these things is warranted. As impressive as a lot of these models are, I can't help but feel like they're going to end up making an incredible amount of sterile soulless content that makes everyone's lives worse . We're already drowning in ad dominated cynical soulless computer gene…

But at the same time, there are tons of positive uses for things like this too. Imagine being a creator who wants to share their interests with the world, but hates their own voice or doesn't have the confidence to speak on camera. You could make a lot of people's lives better by creating content for YouTube, Twitch, TikTok, Instagram, etc, but you wouldn't be brave enough to otherwise. Something like this could be i…

I think a great tool for this would be a cross over voice changer AI, so you could still speak naturally but then sound like the model voice, that way it would be a little less soulless.
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