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Re: System76 AMD-Only Laptop Returns

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Post by deaddodo »

doublepg23 wrote: post #163
lhl wrote: post #117

This might be the first Ryzen 6800U Linux laptop, which is cool, but it's a bit hard for me to get too excited about it... * One of the biggest selling points of Ryzen 6000 is the chip's USB4 support, but looks like the Pangolin won't have it. It also only has 1 USB-C port, which is a bit of a headscratcher in 2023. Does it support PD even? (Not mentioned) * 16:9 FHD display (no brightness specified) - high refresh i…

I’m holding out hope on System76 designing truly custom hardware and we reach the fabled “MacBook of Linux” someday. As of now their Clevo rebadges don’t appeal to me, though their “custom” desktops do.

I mean, it wouldn't even be hard for them to partner with someone like ASUS, Acer, etc to produce semi-custom hardware.

The strict Clevo-based hardware will always turn me away from buying from them when I can get multiple AMD 6000-based laptops from Asus that run Linux fine (after a wifi-card swap, the MediaTek's they use are useless); and have superior build qualities.

Re: System76 AMD-Only Laptop Returns

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Post by kfajdsl »

ysleepy wrote: post #144
lhl wrote: post #117

This might be the first Ryzen 6800U Linux laptop, which is cool, but it's a bit hard for me to get too excited about it... * One of the biggest selling points of Ryzen 6000 is the chip's USB4 support, but looks like the Pangolin won't have it. It also only has 1 USB-C port, which is a bit of a headscratcher in 2023. Does it support PD even? (Not mentioned) * 16:9 FHD display (no brightness specified) - high refresh i…

There is already the ThinkPad P14s G3 AMD with the 6850U PRO. I have the G2 with the 5850U and it performs very well.

Yep, basically same here with a T14s G3 also with the 6850U PRO.

Re: System76 AMD-Only Laptop Returns

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Post by Raphael »

inetknght wrote: post #64
karmakaze wrote: post #34

The first thing I see is a 16x9 screen, think "pass", and close the page. There have to be other LCD panel makers out there. Either their customers don't care and/or the company doesn't care to make a better laptop.

> The first thing I see is a 16x9 screen, think "pass", and close the page. I like 16x9. What do you want instead?

16:9 demands true full-screen for viewing 16:9 content. 16:10 leaves a little room for toolbars if you just want to maximize a window and look at something.

Re: System76 AMD-Only Laptop Returns

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Post by crclist »

haunter wrote: post #78
inetknght wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The first thing I see is a 16x9 screen, think "pass", and close the page. I like 16x9. What do you want instead?

Not OP but I guess 4:3 or 3:2. Some people prefer those to widescreens, having more vertical space is better MS Surface Books are 3:2 for example (2256 x 1504 on 13,5" / 2496 x 1664 on 15"), or some Thinkpad X1 models are 4:3 (probably just the Fold?). The Framework laptop is also 3:2 (2256 x 1504 on 13,5")

Looks like it’s been longer than I realized since I last paid attention to displays. That’s wonderful that alternatives to 16:9 are rising again.

Re: System76 AMD-Only Laptop Returns

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Post by Mikeb85 »

ciupicri wrote: post #152
Mikeb85 wrote: post #89

Not gonna lie, very underwhelming compared to what's coming out from other manufacturers... Even a budget brand like Acer is releasing Ryzen 7000 chipsets and pairing it with higher resolution OLED screens, probably will be cheaper as well... https://www.acer.com/ca-en/laptops/swift/swift-go-14-amd

Does that really exist? All I see is: > Pick your perfect Swift Go 14 AMD > Search for your Swift Go 14 AMD by features or browse the products below. > Results: 0

I mean, the System76 discussed also isn't available at this exact moment either...

Re: System76 AMD-Only Laptop Returns

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Post by deaddodo »

smoldesu wrote: post #88
sylens wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1080p too. Really hard for me to go back at this point.

There's hope that a 4k screen option might exist, but anything between 1080p and 4k will not look good on Linux at this size. Without fractional scaling or funny supersampling tricks, Linux only really looks good at 100% and 200% scaling. Maybe in time that will change, but that's just how Linux is for now.

My screen is 2560x1600 and I use Fractional Scaling (125%) on Fedora/Gnome with Wayland just fine.

Re: System76 AMD-Only Laptop Returns

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Post by INTPenis »

lhl wrote: post #117

This might be the first Ryzen 6800U Linux laptop, which is cool, but it's a bit hard for me to get too excited about it... * One of the biggest selling points of Ryzen 6000 is the chip's USB4 support, but looks like the Pangolin won't have it. It also only has 1 USB-C port, which is a bit of a headscratcher in 2023. Does it support PD even? (Not mentioned) * 16:9 FHD display (no brightness specified) - high refresh i…

It might seem like nitpicking but I'm actually on your side here, as a consumer.

It's been a struggle to find a 1440 AMD laptop, I have one that I'm happy with for travel. (Lenovo Yoga Slim 7 Carbon Gen 6)

I also don't want it to be too big, for travel, so numpad is out for me.

The Slim 7 feels like a toy, but it's actually just very, very light, and made of plastic. It creeks, yes, but it's very, very light. This is more important to me when it's on my back, than being out of metal.

Re: System76 AMD-Only Laptop Returns

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Post by tssva »

msla wrote: post #141
tssva wrote: post #133

Last time there was a System76 laptop announcement on HN I said I was going to be in the market for a new laptop in the coming year but wouldn't consider a System76 laptop because of the giant logo on the lid. Some people said the logos on their System76 laptops were stickers which could be removed. I contacted System76 and was told that was no longer the case. If anyone from System76 is here, I am currently looking…

On my Darter Pro 8 (recentish, not top-of-the-line) laptop, the branding on the lid isn't one sticker, it's a sticker per character, which I could likely remove and leave smooth black metal. This Reddit thread seems to agree with me that the stickers can be removed, albeit about a different model: https://old.reddit.com/r/System76/comments/ge0mqz/lemur_pro_... Looks like it has the same kind of lettering as mine, tho…

When I contacted System76 sales last year after others posted their logo was stickers they told me their logo was no longer stickers. Maybe that is only on the upper range but the upper range is what I am interested in.

Re: System76 AMD-Only Laptop Returns

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Post by inetknght »

quasarj wrote: post #168
inetknght wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Why in the world is anyone still squeezing useless numpads onto laptops??? Excuse me?! I will never buy a laptop without a numpad! I use numpads every day ! The better question is why is anyone still squeezing a useless touchpad onto laptops???

Well first, I don't believe you. But let's assume you really do need a numpad for your work or whatever. Wouldn't you rather have one that was... full sized? And wouldn't you rather the keyboard be centered on the laptop, so you can actually use it on a lap ?

> Well first, I don't believe you.

No point in arguing what you believe.

> Wouldn't you rather have one that was... full sized?

Yes, I would. But having a numpad is absolutely better than not having a numpad.

> wouldn't you rather the keyboard be centered on the laptop, so you can actually use it on a lap?

I can use my laptop on my lap when the keyboard is not centered. Do you have a disability (there's nothing wrong with having one) which prevents you from doing so?

No, I wouldn't rather suffer the loss of a numpad just to have the keyboard centered. Having the keyboard centered does not improve my usability in any way whatsoever. Removing the touchpad would, however. Disabling the touchpad is the first thing I do; I use keyboard navigation around things instead. It's faster and far less clumsy.

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