Portugal’s digital nomad bubble • Hacker News Board

Re: Portugal’s digital nomad bubble

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Post by itwillbegoneto » Tue, Jan 10, 2023, 11:06 AM UTC

Beltalowda wrote: post #45

user_named wrote: post #31

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Expats complain about bureaucracy everywhere. A German expat in Sweden will complain about Swedish bureaucracy. A Swedish expat in Germany will complain about German bureaucracy. It does not mean anything. Expats complain about everything.

I moved back to my native Netherlands after several years abroad and encountered significant problems with the bureaucracy, more so than in any foreign country I've lived. I don't think it's an expat problem, rather it's a "if you fall slightly outside of the happy path then you can expect to run in to a lot of trouble"-problem. It's just that expats are a group of people that fairly frequently tend to fall outside o…

I have a Dutch neighbor who married a Turkish woman. They run a couple of successful companies, and their goal is to relocate to Rotterdam where his family is from. He wanted to incorporate a company in NL, and transfer his current business there. Because he lives abroad, despite being a Dutch citizen, he was not able to open a business bank account, so he was not able to open a company on his own. His options were to move home or get everything executed in his brother's name until he's ready to move (which he choose).

Of course, he also complains heavily about the bureaucracy here, which is equally broken but in a different way.

Re: Portugal’s digital nomad bubble

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Post by ykshev » Tue, Jan 10, 2023, 11:47 AM UTC

slaw wrote: post #127

notch656c wrote: post #93

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Most third world countries with such bad/slow bureaucracy solve those issues with bribery. I'd hate to live someplace that both has low corruption and such high bureaucratic burdens.

Could you give some examples of these countries?

Bali, $100 and you have a valid driving license in one day. Without a bribe it's almost impossible even apply

Re: Portugal’s digital nomad bubble

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Post by selimthegrim » Tue, Jan 10, 2023, 4:07 PM UTC

ajsnigrutin wrote: post #4

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #2

>Portugal sought to lure them with tax breaks [...] Portugal, then with no taxes on crypto-derived capital gains, fit the bill [...] “We have neighborhoods now that are mainly Airbnb,” said Ana, the Portuguese teacher, “We don’t have our homes anymore.” [...] locals protest against rising costs and gentrification Surprised nobody saw gentrification and rising CoL coming when they invited crypto asset holders and work…

This would be no-problem if cities built more houses (especially large apartment blocks) ... well, and outlaw airbnb. I live in a former socialist country that somehow managed to build A LOT of housing in the 70s and 80s, with shitty equipment, but somehow cannot build anything in the last few decades. And not just the government building stuff... normal people could buy a plot of land, get their friends to help, dig…

Wasn’t this called “wild building” for more reasons than just lack of permits?

Re: Portugal’s digital nomad bubble

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Post by llampx » Fri, Jan 13, 2023, 8:18 PM UTC

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #10

ajsnigrutin wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This would be no-problem if cities built more houses (especially large apartment blocks) ... well, and outlaw airbnb. I live in a former socialist country that somehow managed to build A LOT of housing in the 70s and 80s, with shitty equipment, but somehow cannot build anything in the last few decades. And not just the government building stuff... normal people could buy a plot of land, get their friends to help, dig…

>This would be no-problem if cities built more houses "Just build more houses" is not something that scales infinitely. Long commute distances and geography tends to get in the way with stuff like hills, mountains, rivers, lakes, oceans, etc. while demand from foreigners and tourists will stay virtually infinite. At which point do you stop building and say your city can't house more people without ruining the charact…

If your argument implies a slippery slope into a fictional dystopia, you just may be exaggerating just a weee bit.