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Re: I am done. I give up

#181
A lot of the journey is trying to pick the right idea. Something that people will take to and buy. I've heard that surveys can help with that, but there really is no guarantee.

It also really helps to build up a following and be well known.

Re: I am done. I give up

#182

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was an engineer at a successful startup. We grew, we went bankrupt, we laid off most the company, the founders kicked in enough to keep us going and we restructured to give the remaining people larger shares. We became profitable and finally sold to another company. My payday was about $70k, which was a nice bonus, I was happy to get it. I moved on to big tech. The company withered away, the company that bought it…

You listed the less-important parts of that story. The important part was what your start-up offered, how it helps the world, and whether the product(s) and the technology went on to be used by many people/organizations or not...

Comparison shopping in the aughts.

There was interesting work on crawling and search, we went bankrupt trying to provide useful tools for people to find different products and the different places to buy them, then became profitable farming our content out for SEO.

We were then bought out by a domain parker who wanted to marry our monetization with his traffic; as far as I know it didn't work, but that was when I left.

Re: I am done. I give up

#183
post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And there is absolutely nothing wrong with a life style business to begin with, the negative stigma is there only because certain VCs feel that you are a horrible person for not cutting them in on the action so they can diversify their portfolios.

This . I really dislike the term "lifestyle business". What's wrong with a stable long-term business that makes founders and customers happy? Why does every business need GROWTH GROWTH GROWTH at all costs, even if the result is a net negative for customers? I sometimes explain to customers that if my business were VC-funded, it would grow and be developed much faster, but in the end there would need to be an exit and…

Seconded. I personally try to never use the phrase 'lifestyle business'. Instead I use the phrase 'bootstrapped business', because that is what it is. You have bootstrapped the business yourself organically over time instead of at a fast pace of growth with VC money.

Re: I am done. I give up

#184
>But please don't give up. Keep pushing forward and don't let the failures define you. There's always a chance for success, no matter how small it may seem.

This advice is the exact opposite of the wisdom in the rest of the post.

I’d say it’s okay to give up. If someone has a long term miserable life thanks to building their startup, then perhaps consider doing something that makes you more happy. There’s nothing wrong with that.

Re: I am done. I give up

#185
post #120

Entrepreneurship is a rich man's game. Notice that almost all of the guys who made it big come from wealth, and had the money and the contacts to lean on to make their product a success. I'm sorry you got caught out by the charlatans who hype up entrepreneurship and sell people lies about success. Please don't blame yourself, this isn't your fault, you were hoodwinked by false prophets.

>Entrepreneurship is a rich man's game. Notice that almost all of the guys who made it big come from wealth, and had the money and the contacts to lean on to make their product a success.

That IMO puts you into a position where failure is all but impossible. As others have pointed out luck also has a part to play. But if you've got family financially supporting you (or at least able to bail you out) you will succeed eventually.

How exactly do you do it when you're smart enough to be on here but don't come from that kind of background? Are you just supposed to accept it?

Re: I am done. I give up

#187
Getting no success is hard. But getting some initial success can be a trap. I spent 15 years of my life scraping by in various attempts to make something that sticks, and (too) slowly failed to find it.

Finally I sold out to the dark side (consulting). The money is decent and the job is something I can forget when I clock out. Not being able to retire early will be my own fault for chasing the dream for too long, had I switched sooner it would still have been a possibility.

Failing can be a good thing, it forces you out from something that's not working.

Re: I am done. I give up

#188
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What rate is the cutoff at which people give up entrepreneurship altogether? I wonder how big has the opportunity cost of monopolies been in the past decade

> Entrepreneurship is like one of those carnival games where you throw darts or something. > Middle class kids can afford one throw. Most miss. A few hit the target and get a small prize. A very few hit the center bullseye and get a bigger prize. Rags to riches! The American Dream lives on. > Rich kids can afford many throws. If they want to, they can try over and over and over again until they hit something and feel…

it's really not. There are all kinds of entrepreneurs and most are not making weird iphone apps, but more conventional businesses that do somewhat work or fail. Rich kids don't necessarily do many throws, as they have the money to push even an unsuccessful idea for a long time. VCs may be the ones throwing darts. And poor kids do go to the carnival, you don't often see rich people going there.

Re: I am done. I give up

#189
Thank you for posting this. The world of solopreneur success stories is rife with survivorship bias. We need more candid conversations like this it balance the message.

It is hard.

Re: I am done. I give up

#190
I feel you. I'm gonna be honest, I've lost count of my attempts(solo or with others) for a course of 12 years. 2 years ago I completely gave up. This isn't an endeavor that anyone can take. Some of us are not built for it. As strange as it may sound, this is something best suited for people who are average at most related fields (marketing, sales and development) with slightly above average skills in one area. If your skills in any of those areas excel all others, you are doomed to fail. In my case I can easily devote a ton of effort to the tech side of things at near 0 mental cost and I'll go to insane lengths to make something perfect. The moment I step out of this field and have to face any of the other two, I can stare at a blank page for days not knowing what to do and feel mentally drained afterwards. When I came to realize this, I was kinda bummed, not gonna lie. My advice: don't sweat it and move on. Not worth spending effort thinking what it might have been: it isn't and it won't be so you shouldn't care. Simply move on.
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