Lol why is this flagged? The article is fine.
Interesting discussion about this flag on mastodon:
https://mastodon.cloud/@timbray/109414415306474691
Bye, Twitter
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Twitter feed has only the people you follow.
you've never used twitter, have you
I have used twitter since October 2007. And it has always (except for a time a couple years ago. Then i switched to https://tweetdeck.twitter.com/) showed only tweets/retweets by people i follow.
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Elon has been interacting a lot with guys like Andy Ngo and Ian Miles Cheong. I refuse to believe he's unaware of who they are. https://twitter.com/MeidasTouch/status/1596344634443431937
Andy Ngo does nothing but post videos of innocent people being swarmed and attacked by violent mobs and tries to get them justice. He is fighting against actual fascism.
He selectively edits his videos to make it look like one side starts the fighting, and only shows misbehavior by the anti-fascists, never the other side. He's a propagandist cosplaying as a journalist.
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Please explain how journalist Ben Collins, who they've been mass-targeting, is part of Antifa. There's a huge list of people that have been mass-reported who have nothing to do with Antifa. Anyone who crosses alt-right propagandist Andy Ngo has been subject to mass-reporting. These people aren't operating in good faith.
And yet, Ben Collins is not banned. It's almost as if a bunch of trolls can mass report people, and the company will handle the reports according to policy. Next please.
My point wasn't that twitter was acquiescing to every mass-report attempt. My point is that the "free speech absolutist" line was always BS. They'll turn a dime to suppress any speech they don't like as soon as they get the chance.
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I've never heard of these things as being 'alt-right.' If, anything the ability to have a 'traditional' family with a single wage earner and a full-time homemaker mother is simply an overt mark of privilege (because who else can afford to raise a family on a single income in this century?), not a mark of being right-wing. If you're saying that other, non-traditional family structures are something degenerate, yes, yo…
Then you clearly did not spend much time on pre-elon twitter where it was often the case. Infact more than one story has been posted on Twitter calling the "'traditional' family with a single wage earner and a full-time homemaker mother" actively dangerous to women in general and something that should not only be advocated against but actively resisted.
Twitter is so full of random takes on anything that of course you can find 'more than one' take on some weird idea. However, the dominant feminist stance on twitter and everywhere is overwhelmingly that women should have the freedom to be in the workforce or be a full-time homemaker, they just shouldn't be arbitrarily shoved into the homemaker role by society.
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And yet, Ben Collins is not banned. It's almost as if a bunch of trolls can mass report people, and the company will handle the reports according to policy. Next please.
My point wasn't that twitter was acquiescing to every mass-report attempt. My point is that the "free speech absolutist" line was always BS. They'll turn a dime to suppress any speech they don't like as soon as they get the chance.
Yes, agreed. Right wing internet trolls are full of shit. Your mistake lies in thinking that these are the only people who support Musk.
You're focusing on the absolute worst of the worst, ignoring the millions of people who genuinely support free speech. We're very happy with what has taken place at Twitter.
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> it's good to know about and consider dissenting opinions There's dissenting opinions like "I like team A" vs "I like team B" and then there's dissenting opinions like "I think LGBTQ+ people should have rights" vs "I think LGBTQ+ people should be rounded up / banned from public / have no rights".
Not exactly fair in the extremism on both sides. If you don't know about or consider alternate viewpoints could you really have productive discourse with a person that aligns with those viewpoints? Most people that you'd meet or talk to that may disagree on LGBTQ aren't extremist, they are more along the lines of "a children's cartoon about dinosaurs shouldn't have multiple lesbian make out scenes" or "Disney is indo…
> could you really have productive discourse with a person that aligns with those viewpoints?
There is no discourse you can have with a person who believes that LGBTQ+ people have fewer rights than others.
> "a children's cartoon about dinosaurs shouldn't have multiple lesbian make out scenes"
Now that I would like to see. Which one was it?
> "Disney is indoctrinating children"
There's no discourse you can have with someone claiming such a bizarre viewpoint. It's like flat earthers.
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My point wasn't that twitter was acquiescing to every mass-report attempt. My point is that the "free speech absolutist" line was always BS. They'll turn a dime to suppress any speech they don't like as soon as they get the chance.
Yes, agreed. Right wing internet trolls are full of shit. Your mistake lies in thinking that these are the only people who support Musk. You're focusing on the absolute worst of the worst, ignoring the millions of people who genuinely support free speech. We're very happy with what has taken place at Twitter.
Read my comment again. I specifically said "a very vocal subset".
As someone who genuinely supports free speech, you should have a real problem with the troll army. Instead you immediately leapt to "well they weren't successful this time, so all is well". Harassment doesn't always have to result in an outright ban to still have a chilling effect.
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Yes, agreed. Right wing internet trolls are full of shit. Your mistake lies in thinking that these are the only people who support Musk. You're focusing on the absolute worst of the worst, ignoring the millions of people who genuinely support free speech. We're very happy with what has taken place at Twitter.
Read my comment again. I specifically said "a very vocal subset". As someone who genuinely supports free speech, you should have a real problem with the troll army. Instead you immediately leapt to "well they weren't successful this time, so all is well". Harassment doesn't always have to result in an outright ban to still have a chilling effect.
Mass reporting is a problem on the internet and at Twitter that long predates Musk. This all comes down to your assessment that he's running Twitter poorly, and that this is therefore a new risk. I completely disagree, so I'm not worried about these people over the long term.
Furthermore, coordinated censorship by the platform itself is now over. Even if Ben Collins were accidentally, temporarily banned over mass reporting, I wouldn't lose much sleep over it. The status quo is better than the status quo ante.
Ideally, both cases are handled properly. I have faith Twitter will be able to achieve this.