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The Bucks can’t wear cream uniforms because they interfere with digital ads

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Re: The Bucks can’t wear cream uniforms because they interfere with digital ads

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Post by grishka »

yawn wrote: post #23
vel0city wrote: post #4

The digital boards in hockey can get really annoying even when they're working as intended. Animating them should definitely be banned and I wouldn't mind seeing the digital ads disappear entirely.

I was shocked as a non-hockey fan to see an ad of a car driving along the wall during active play. My eyes instinctively moved to the ad away from the puck. It was gross. As an NBA fan, I hate how ads keep getting crammed into every piece of equipment on the court, the jerseys, etc.

As not a fan of professional sports, every time I see a sports game on TV, I feel like the game itself is secondary. It absolutely feels like an advertising show with the unimportant addition of people playing something.

Re: The Bucks can’t wear cream uniforms because they interfere with digital ads

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Post by yafbum »

synu wrote: post #177
yafbum wrote: post #176

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The entire business model of sports entertainment ventures like NBA is built around advertising. Saying I'm a fan of the NBA except for the ads is a bit like saying I'm a big fan of credit cards except for that part where you have to pay the bill.

I personally wouldn’t agree that the only possible reaction to anything ad-supported is to like the ads, or else you are making some kind of logical or category error. The existence of ad blockers on the internet for example seems to indicate that not only do some people quite dislike the ads, they even spend time and energy to actually do something about it.

I don't claim that anyone has to like ads. Only that when someone self-describes as an "NBA fan", that sounds like they're saying they're a fan of the NBA overall. When in the next sentence they complain about ads, it sounds like there's an assumption that the ads are encroaching on the NBA, whereas they're an extremely deliberate action by the NBA.

If someone said, I like watching basketball games but I don't like watching ads, that sounds different to me.

Re: The Bucks can’t wear cream uniforms because they interfere with digital ads

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Post by yafbum »

matheusmoreira wrote: post #157
ryandrake wrote: post #154

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You're getting really unfairly dunked on for a sensible point. The Purpose Of A System Is What It Does, and what televised sports unarguably does is relentlessly slather its consumers' eyes with advertisements--and also shows some sportsball every once in a while, between those ads. Saying "I like televised sports but not ads" doesn't make a lot of sense. The entire purpose of televised sports, the only reason for it…

The purpose of sports is to entertain us. One day someone smarter than me will make a machine learning thing that deletes brands and ads from video in real time. I'm going to enjoy watching them seethe about it, perhaps even more than I enjoy watching stuff.

You can build a super smart AI that can swap it out if you want. Sorry to spoil your perverse enjoyment there, but nobody will care about it. Everybody knows about ad blockers. Advertisers included!

For things like logos on jerseys, it doesn't really matter. It only has to be slightly inconvenient for most people not to want to do it, which is good enough for most advertising purposes. Public places of viewing like sports bars can't do it. Media pics will have that logo. People will even buy the jersey and carry the advertiser's brand around IRL.

So don't do it only because you want to see someone seethe, you'd risk being quite disappointed by their indifference!

Re: The Bucks can’t wear cream uniforms because they interfere with digital ads

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Post by weberer »

derekp7 wrote: post #24
maskros wrote: post #18

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That's already happened ... just look at how many youtube channels have integrated a "and now let's briefly talk about my sponsors" segment in the middle.

Now all Youtube needs is to give the content creator the ability to disable the fast forward / skip 10 second buttons at specified portions of the video (in return for a fee of course).

That's exactly what they do with their "Shorts" section. They completely take away play controls from the user.

Re: The Bucks can’t wear cream uniforms because they interfere with digital ads

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Post by midoridensha »

Godel_unicode wrote: post #180
midoridensha wrote: post #174

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>It sucks that these huge sports leagues have little in the way of competition. Of course they do: people could spend their time doing (or watching) something else . Watch a TV show or movie, read a book, listen to some music, practice playing an instrument, cook some food, write a software program, go on a walk; there's endless things to do with your time besides watching sports. If you don't like the ads and the co…

I assume you’re similarly unbothered by googles domination of search because rather than searching for information you could be baking a cake?

I don't know about you, but I don't use Google search much, I use DDG.

So, no, I'm not bothered by Google's domination when I actually don't use it much. Doesn't seem to be "domination" to me.

Re: The Bucks can’t wear cream uniforms because they interfere with digital ads

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Post by midoridensha »

synu wrote: post #175
midoridensha wrote: post #171

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Ads are an inseparable part of the experience with professional sportsball. You can't have the sport without the ads, so it's like complaining that you like watching NASCAR races in-person from front-row seats, and that you love the gas-guzzling carbureted engines they use, but you don't like all the noise from the engines and tires and wish they were all silent. Sure, you can wish for that, but the laws of physics p…

So saying something like “I like the modern internet for the most part but not the ads” would in your opinion be a similarly nonsensical statement?

Basically, yes. You're not going to get all these free services (search, email, etc.) for nothing; the price is the ads. Of course, some of us don't look at ads much, thanks to ad-blocking technologies, but enough people are too lazy or ignorant to do that, so that's how all this stuff is financed.

If we eliminate ads, you can say goodbye to many "free" services people take for granted now, or expect to need to subscribe to them for a monthly fee. Of course, that could work, but it'd be very different than what we're used to I think.

Re: The Bucks can’t wear cream uniforms because they interfere with digital ads

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Post by zimpenfish »

WD-42 wrote: post #51
maskros wrote: post #18

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That's already happened ... just look at how many youtube channels have integrated a "and now let's briefly talk about my sponsors" segment in the middle.

That's why we have SponsorBlock: https://sponsor.ajay.app/ It even has an API that youtube-dlp uses to automatically trim out sponsored sections from downloaded videos!

It's definitely useful - especially for yt-dlp - but I eventually had to turn it off due to the clipping being a bit wayward[1]. Often got videos where it'd clip 15-20s before the sponsor and 30s after which leads to horrible glitchy cuts. Or sometimes it would only cut out the middle 2m of a sponsor segment leading to, again, horrible glitchy cuts but with sponsorship. etc.etc.

[1] This may be because I was downloading things reasonably quickly after they went up - waiting a day or two might have got better results?

Re: The Bucks can’t wear cream uniforms because they interfere with digital ads

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Post by matheusmoreira »

yafbum wrote: post #183
matheusmoreira wrote: post #157

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The purpose of sports is to entertain us. One day someone smarter than me will make a machine learning thing that deletes brands and ads from video in real time. I'm going to enjoy watching them seethe about it, perhaps even more than I enjoy watching stuff.

You can build a super smart AI that can swap it out if you want. Sorry to spoil your perverse enjoyment there, but nobody will care about it. Everybody knows about ad blockers. Advertisers included! For things like logos on jerseys, it doesn't really matter. It only has to be slightly inconvenient for most people not to want to do it, which is good enough for most advertising purposes. Public places of viewing like s…

Yeah, they're so indifferent to ad blockers that they actively find ways to detect and circumvent them, to the point people have to make ad blocker blocker blockers. Google is so indifferent that they forced everyone to use restrictive new browser extension APIs just to cripple ad blockers.

Re: The Bucks can’t wear cream uniforms because they interfere with digital ads

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Post by Ygg2 »

matheusmoreira wrote: post #156
MonkeyMalarky wrote: post #132

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