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Re: EU Voice

#181

Post by rhn_mk1 »

luciusdomitius wrote: post #145
blitzar wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is exactly how the federated "twitter" should work.

This is what Dorsey and Musk discussed in private according to court documents[0]. : “I believe it must be an open source protocol, funded by a foundation of sorts that doesn’t own the protocol, only advances it. A bit like what Signal has done. It can’t have an advertising model.” 0. https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/now-twitter-belongs-elon-h...

With Signal given as an example, I don't think your conclusion is right. Signal is famous for disallowing federation in the network they own. (I'm guessing that there's no provision for federation in the Signal protocol for that reason, either.)

Re: EU Voice

#182

Post by Ecstatify »

JadeNB wrote: post #174
Ecstatify wrote: post #170

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I don't understand this link with Twitter, maybe because it's in the news now. I never mentioned any specific company. The previous poster wanted to go on some Elon rant/tangent. My point was to invest in a platform that people actually use. If I'm the EU I want to have a platform where I can spread my message to as many people as possible. The EU is already spending huge amounts of money advertising on these platfor…

> I don't understand this link with Twitter, maybe because it's in the news now. I never mentioned any specific company. Exactly, which is why I'm asking: when you said "buy a considerable stake in these American social media companies", which social-media companies did you mean?

I meant the concept of buying a social media company to gain access to a network/captive audience. I was not talking about a specific company.

If I was talking about a specific company I would have said "Why don't they buy a considerable stake in {insert social media company}"

Re: EU Voice

#183

Post by mellosouls »

nannal wrote: post #83
amelius wrote: post #80

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> whims of a private American corporation It's worse. Whims of one American individual.

Who has clear biases and voiced support for one of the two american political parties.

Considering the clear biases of the previous moderators, perhaps we should give him and the new regime time to prove they can do a better job?

Re: EU Voice

#185

Post by parminya »

williamvds wrote: post #147
Sargos wrote: post #108

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>Each country should control official channels of communication. I don't want to create 100 accounts to access each countries totally unique and special websites. It's a bad system and ultimately will lead to less discourse and not more.

Forgive me if I'm mistaken, I've never used mastodon, but I expect part of the "federated" bit means being able to "follow" users from other Mastodon instances, including EU Voice. So you'd need just one account on a Mastodon instances to follow every EU government/institution announcements on EU Voice. If not on Mastodon, RSS feeds still exist.

It's completely correct. You can follow say @EU_Commission@social.network.europa.eu from an account on say mastodon.nz.

Re: EU Voice

#186

Post by dane-pgp »

rhn_mk1 wrote: post #181
luciusdomitius wrote: post #145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is what Dorsey and Musk discussed in private according to court documents[0]. : “I believe it must be an open source protocol, funded by a foundation of sorts that doesn’t own the protocol, only advances it. A bit like what Signal has done. It can’t have an advertising model.” 0. https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/now-twitter-belongs-elon-h...

With Signal given as an example, I don't think your conclusion is right. Signal is famous for disallowing federation in the network they own. (I'm guessing that there's no provision for federation in the Signal protocol for that reason, either.)

Signal is equally (in)famous for using this lack of federation to then force advertising for its cryptocoin into all of its clients:

https://www.osnews.com/story/133275/signal-embeds-shady-cryp...

Re: EU Voice

#187

Post by dane-pgp »

berkes wrote: post #73
Ecstatify wrote: post #68

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I don't understand why the EU bothers wasting money on these initiatives. No one uses these platforms. Why don't they buy a considerable stake in these American social media companies instead of trying to reinvent the wheel that is deflating as soon as it launches. https://tube.network.europa.eu URL looks like a scam website. There is no way tech illiterate people can use these websites. Their first video that appear…

As far as can be counted, the user count of just mastodon users, has surpassed six million [1]. > No one uses these platforms. Six million is not no-one. It's relatively few, but absolutely a great number. I'm certain you'll have a hard time finding social networks with these amounts of users, that don't belong to one of the tech monopolies. Or with such numbers where the EU has no account or official presence. [¹] h…

> the user count of just mastodon users, has surpassed six million

That must make the users of Gab hate them even more...

Re: EU Voice

#188

Post by dane-pgp »

Ecstatify wrote: post #115
simion314 wrote: post #86

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>I don't understand why the EU bothers wasting money on these initiatives. >Why don't they buy a considerable stake .... What? instead of investing in a server and some open source code we should bive Elon a few millions? Are you Elon or how does this logic work ? News websites can link to twitter or any other website as easily , is not like the average EU citizens is actually following any EU institutions (no idea a…

It's not about the cost of the service, it's that it's a pointless endeavour it's never going to succeed. Every social media company succeeds or fails based on the network effect. Where did I mention Elon?

> It's not about the cost of the service ... Every social media company succeeds or fails based on the network effect.

So you're saying it's not about the money, it's about sending a message?

Re: EU Voice

#189

Post by dane-pgp »

BlueTemplar wrote: post #122
berkes wrote: post #81

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In case people read this comment as "the EU is spending €20M on hosting a mastodon": no. The EDPS does a lot more. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Data_Protection_Sup...

People would ask if they can have a mastodon at home and how fluffy it is.

Mom: We have mastodon at home.

Mastodon at home: https://images.foxtv.com/static.fox5dc.com/www.fox5dc.com/co...

Re: EU Voice

#190

Post by woojoo666 »

luciusdomitius wrote: post #145
blitzar wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is exactly how the federated "twitter" should work.

This is what Dorsey and Musk discussed in private according to court documents[0]. : “I believe it must be an open source protocol, funded by a foundation of sorts that doesn’t own the protocol, only advances it. A bit like what Signal has done. It can’t have an advertising model.” 0. https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/now-twitter-belongs-elon-h...

Though of course, Jack Dorsey doesn't want to build on an existing protocol (like activitypub) and instead is rolling out his own (https://atproto.com)
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