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Use RSS for privacy and efficiency (2021)

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Re: Use RSS for privacy and efficiency (2021)

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post #7

+1 for RSS, I leaned on RSS as my protocol-of-choice for Haven[1], and even added a built-in RSS feed-reader. It provides a single chronologically-ordered stream of content from all your feeds which I've found makes it much more pleasant to read through. [1]: https://havenweb.org

Hi Matt, we've recently emailed about Haven and HeyHomepage because we both are RSS-based, so to speak. Your software is oriented towards private (group) communication and makes a strong case as an alternative for Facebook. I've a lot of respect for your product! With HeyHomepage I'm more publicly oriented, more Twitter-like if you will. On top of a publicly accessible website. The beauty of RSS is it's interoperabil…

Yup! RSS is RSS! If you want to follow a Haven feed, you just need to make sure your newsreader can handle HTTP Basic Auth credentials. A Haven feed URL embeds the credentials right in the URL to make it easier.

And Haven's feed reader can read every RSS and Atom feed I've been able to find. The feed reading and publishing are both part of the live demo, so you can do some testing over there! https://havenweb.org/demo.html

If you run into any incompatibilities, let me know and I'll get them fixed!

Re: Use RSS for privacy and efficiency (2021)

#183
post #7

+1 for RSS, I leaned on RSS as my protocol-of-choice for Haven[1], and even added a built-in RSS feed-reader. It provides a single chronologically-ordered stream of content from all your feeds which I've found makes it much more pleasant to read through. [1]: https://havenweb.org

Thank you so much for sharing! I have considered this exact same idea to break my friends and family free from the chains of Facebook and Instagram, but you've packaged this up so nicely, I should really give this a shot. Is there a way to update my own blog to play nicely with Haven? I like my own styling and hosting setup, and I already have my own RSS reader, so ideally I would like to continue using those, while…

The only thing special about Haven is that access is restricted for the content you publish. Anything that publishes and consumes RSS (so long as it supports HTTP Basic Auth) will play nicely with Haven.

I have to add that caveat because support isn't universal. NetNewsWire supports it, Thunderbird supports it, and Inoreader supports it on their paid tier, but Feedly doesn't. (for some examples)

Happy to chat directly, drop me a note on the Haven contact page! https://havenweb.org/contact.html

Re: Use RSS for privacy and efficiency (2021)

#184
post #7

+1 for RSS, I leaned on RSS as my protocol-of-choice for Haven[1], and even added a built-in RSS feed-reader. It provides a single chronologically-ordered stream of content from all your feeds which I've found makes it much more pleasant to read through. [1]: https://havenweb.org

Brilliant! If you ever need help with this, I would love to pitch in. It reminds me of the olden days of social media. For users who don't know how to self host, and can't stomach the (very reasonable for ad-free social media) $5/mo... have you considered a cloud-hosted option with a sidebar of KTLO ads? Or maybe a "family plan" cloud instance where multiple friends could share a single cloud instance (sharded per pe…

Thank you for the offer! I'll reach out directly and we can chat more.

Re: Use RSS for privacy and efficiency (2021)

#185
post #128

Can anybody recommend a RSS program that works on Windows that isn't terrible? Or that literally does the minimum requirement of works? I don't know what happened, but when I tried to find something earlier this year, it looked like there was nothing that was a simple RSS without extra bloat that wasn't abandonware and that actually literally worked. Every time I ask this, 90% of the answers just say use X Android ap…

i use Feedbro extension in firefox daily on windows.

Re: Use RSS for privacy and efficiency (2021)

#186

I make heavy use of https://kill-the-newsletter.com/ to convert e-mail newsletters into RSS feeds -- IMO the RSS reader context is way better than an email inbox for consuming newslettery content.

that's amazing! Subscribing now. I'd love to find a "web2rss" for laggards that don't provide their own feeds :)

Some readers have such option build-in (e.g. FreshRSS). There are also services like:

https://createfeed.fivefilters.org/

https://feed43.com/

https://politepol.com/en/

Re: Use RSS for privacy and efficiency (2021)

#187

I make heavy use of https://kill-the-newsletter.com/ to convert e-mail newsletters into RSS feeds -- IMO the RSS reader context is way better than an email inbox for consuming newslettery content.

I find it hilarious that a bit lower down, someone is discussing https://github.com/rss2email/rss2email to do the opposite of this.

My conjecture is it’s all about the preferred UI. If you look at something like gnus it really doesn’t draw a distinction between e-mail, rss or nntp.

Re: Use RSS for privacy and efficiency (2021)

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I have an idea for a very minor side project. Create a static site generator template which will generate each site I follow as its own section and run it on github actions everyday to fetch newer feeds and publish as a website. This way I can access on my phone and don't have to worry about syncing the feeds regularly.

I use elfeed as my rss and even though I sit at my system for quite long, some days I just would like to go through my feeds on my phone. I would also love to have an archived portable copy of all my sites as well (FOMO) which currently elfeed doesn't seem to support exporting the feeds right now.

Re: Use RSS for privacy and efficiency (2021)

#189
post #93

I've mixed feelings about this. On the one hand, I like the uniformity and simplicity of RSS, its vibe of good old times and the ability to avoid ad-driven ranking algorithms. On the other hand, many media/content sources offer legitimately sophisticated recommendation systems that are more effective than having dozens of unranked high-frequency inputs a day in your RSS inbox. For sources with more curated and low-fr…

There's no reason "legitimately sophisticated recommendation systems" can't offer RSS feeds.

Sure they can and probably should, as an alternative. My point is that I sometimes prefer to take advantage of the more advanced capabilities of specialized recommendation systems.

Re: Use RSS for privacy and efficiency (2021)

#190

Instagram actively fights to shut down this kind of access. Any solution you find that works now will soon be killed. I’ve given up. The result is that I simply don’t get to see what my friends and family post there anymore.

This is where I am at too. I've told my friends that if they want me to see what they post they need to use something that isn't so actively user-hostile. Even Facebook will at least email me when selected friends post something. That being said I'm not sure if there is a great website to recommend for private sharing. Mastodon is maybe the best but I'm not sure I am a huge fan of the "only short messages" medium.

Some instances have larger character limits. It's not configurable, but it's fairly easy to patch.
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