Yes, smarter kids with higher attention spans will play video games for more hours in a day.
Video gaming may be associated with better cognitive performance in children
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#182Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think having parents who can help you develop a growth mindset is awesome and something generally reserved for upper/middle class parents. The part where your mind grows comes from practicing. So practicing video games is the same as practicing sports or instruments, the games encourage you to keep pushing yourself in the same way that a coach or teacher would.
That sounds like wishful thinking in a Dunning Kruger kind of way by somebody who never played physical sports on a competitive level. Video games are a non-social controlled environment with obvious and predictable goals, similar to gambling. Gambling encourages a person to keep pushing themselves for a positive outcome but that alone does indicate any form of personal advancement. Sports and music require developme…
The goals are pretty obvious in many sports. Heard of goal posts before?
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#183Earlier quoted context omitted.
Video games are like the cheapest way to keep a kid busy for low income working parents. I guess they could send the kids outside but people nowadays start asking questions if a kid is caught outside while single mom is working for 3 hours or something. Given infinite money I think many of those parents would send the kid with nanny if needed or whatever to organized sports, piano classes, etc.
> Video games are like the cheapest way to keep a kid busy for low income working parents Source on that? Video games (console or pc) is very expensive and not something low income folks can generally afford for their kids.
I think that you probably have in your mind what "gamers" would call "real games", those with highly detailed 3D graphics and requiring significant hardware (especially GPU) power, but what's considered a video game is far broader than that, and can be as simple as a basic puzzle game needing not more than 80s-era hardware.
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#184Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think having parents who can help you develop a growth mindset is awesome and something generally reserved for upper/middle class parents. The part where your mind grows comes from practicing. So practicing video games is the same as practicing sports or instruments, the games encourage you to keep pushing yourself in the same way that a coach or teacher would.
That sounds like wishful thinking in a Dunning Kruger kind of way by somebody who never played physical sports on a competitive level. Video games are a non-social controlled environment with obvious and predictable goals, similar to gambling. Gambling encourages a person to keep pushing themselves for a positive outcome but that alone does indicate any form of personal advancement. Sports and music require developme…
> If a given video game took years of investment to complete the current level almost nobody would play that game.
How do you explain League of Legends or even E-sports in general? Games are as competitive as they are endeavors of creativity.
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#185I credit RuneScape with teaching me the value of delayed gratification and basic economics. I credit competitive Halo 3 with teaching me team building and strategy skills. I credit StarCraft with training my mind to travel at warp speed. Honestly. My video game experience was instrumental to my success so far in life. This is not surprising to me.
I credit Civ I with my almost failing my GCSEs, but I guess I did okay in the end. But then I have in the decades since avoided games I could happily play all night :).
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#186Earlier quoted context omitted.
In the same boat and it is great until I run into a more complex multi-faceted problem, pick a solution and end up 30 miles down the road before I realize I need to backtrack and try a different one. If my childhood had more books and boredom I might have the patience to spend longer in the planning stage and less enthusiasm for the drinking coffee and pounding out a solution stage.
Mine had a lot of books and boredom. I rarely regret just getting things done. Excessive planning is a much larger issue. I find it's usually better to just do something twice rather than spend too much time thinking about it.
Same. I suffer from analysis paralysis.
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#187Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think having parents who can help you develop a growth mindset is awesome and something generally reserved for upper/middle class parents. The part where your mind grows comes from practicing. So practicing video games is the same as practicing sports or instruments, the games encourage you to keep pushing yourself in the same way that a coach or teacher would.
That sounds like wishful thinking in a Dunning Kruger kind of way by somebody who never played physical sports on a competitive level. Video games are a non-social controlled environment with obvious and predictable goals, similar to gambling. Gambling encourages a person to keep pushing themselves for a positive outcome but that alone does indicate any form of personal advancement. Sports and music require developme…
> Video games are a non-social controlled environment
Lots of video games are social. Some are not. The amount the environment is controlled can also varry.
> Gambling encourages a person to keep pushing themselves for a positive outcome but that alone does indicate any form of personal advancement.
So like literally everything. Seriously, can you name an external stimuli that this doesn't fit? Is work gambling? School? Yoga class?
> In sports it takes years of investment to get good (less than excellent). If a given video game took years of investment to complete the current level almost nobody would play that game.
I can be shit at soccer, and still have fun with friends. I can be shit at video games and still have fun. I can spend years practising and still be nowhere close to olympic level. Similarly, i can spend years on video games and be nowhere near the top of competitive e-sports.
What's the difference exactly?
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#188Earlier quoted context omitted.
I dont understand what you're getting at. What are the "reasons to think" that the populations are not equivalent? The study controlled for parental income, sex, age, BMI, IQ.
I doubt those controls are sufficient, individual-level IQ measures are very variant and likely incomplete, so there still could easily be pre-existing differences the controls can't sort out
I'm not seeing your point. Are you saying it is not valid because you doubt if such a study could show anything, or are you saying that you would design the study differently?
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#189I wonder if the industry incentives have shifted and if it impacts these cognitive benefits. Games changed a lot over the past two decades and I am not quite sure they preserve the same sense of challenge, opting for quick rewards and addictive mechanics.
When i was a kid, we had super mario world. You know, you jumped on things heads and got power ups. Fun, but Not exactly a strategic masterpiece.
Nothing wrong with that, but if games have changed i think its in the other direction, or at least the ecosystem has fragmented more into different types.
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#190Nictone has been known to cause nootropic effects, yet it results in long term damage and dependence. Considering the gaming industry is big money (just like big tobacco, big weed, big sugar, and big infinite scroll), I would take any study like this with a boulder of salt. Video games might improve cognitive abilities, but they also cheat the reward centers of your brain and offer the feeling of success while achiev…
> Video games might improve cognitive abilities, but they also cheat the reward centers of your brain and offer the feeling of success while achieving none.
Isn't that all games & sports? If you were achieving something they would call it a "job" not a "game".