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Nearly Half of San Franciscans Have Been Victims of Theft, New Poll Says

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Post by DoneWithAllThat »

tchaffee wrote: post #132

Here's a good place to compare to other cities, if comparing is even a reasonable thing to do [1]. Sort by Total for Property Crime. Notably Albuquerque, Spokane, and Memphis have higher total property crime rates. But perhaps wouldn't make such an interesting headline for those in tech. Also notable that Orlando, FL is high on the list. But Irvine, CA and Tampa, FL are at the bottom of the list. Please also read the…

Interesting facts about Irvine:

It’s owned entirely by one of the largest (maybe the largest) real estate company in the US, The Irvine Company. They also have a heavy presence in Sunnyvale CA.

Irvine buildings and neighborhoods - all of them - are built intentionally to be anti-crime. Things like alleys and dark corners are virtually non-existent.

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Post by testfrequency »

curiousllama wrote: post #150
dwheeler wrote: post #108

I live in northern Virginia, and I have never been a victim of theft. If this poll is correct, that amount of theft is insane. Regardless of the causes, this seems like a pretty serious problem.

NoVA is more like Palo Alto than SF. DC proper is a different vibe

“I live in a wealthy suburb outside a major city and it’s safe here compared to an entire major city” fixed it for you

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Post by GoldenRacer »

uvdn7 wrote: post #75

I am genuinely curious about what’s the appeal of SF?

I'm not a big fan of SF and have only been twice but I see the appeal. There are a ton of job opportunities for tech workers (yes, there are a ton of opportunities for SWEs just about everywhere but SF is another level, especially if you like startups). Weather there is almost always reasonably comfortable. You're on the ocean. Mountains for skiing/snowboarding, hiking, climbing, whatever else you might want to do are close enough that you can reasonably drive to them on the weekend. And it's got all the standard big city things: diverse selection of really good food, live music, clubs/night life, an lgbtq+ scene, art, just lots of culture in general.

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Post by mc32 »

mbgerring wrote: post #165
mc32 wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As I point out downthread, it will take time for this to manifest. Compare and Contrast Daly City/San Mateo county. It's not like the USSR where you bring in a show team to convict and send everyone to the Gulags overnight and instill fear through marxist means. No, this takes time and effort to turn around. From Koch to Dinkins to Giuliani --it takes time to tamp down crime. For things to straighten out support for…

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What mistake, you think the DA snaps her fingers and the system self-heals and self assembles? Even in private enterprise a bad CEO can take years to recover from, here we're taking government --so you're going to have to wait some time for results.

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Post by roflyear »

dwheeler wrote: post #108

I live in northern Virginia, and I have never been a victim of theft. If this poll is correct, that amount of theft is insane. Regardless of the causes, this seems like a pretty serious problem.

Never? I live in NJ and I have had things stolen from me at least 4 times.

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Post by defrost »

taeric wrote: post #125

Without comparing to other high density cities for basic theft, I don't really find this that useful. :( To wit, in Seattle we had our car broken into once. We also had a habit of forgetting the car keys /on top of the car/, such that we would have said we live in a very very safe place. Despite the time the car was broken into. When I lived in Atlanta, the general practice was not to lock your car, so that they woul…

Agreed.

I too am a victim of theft!!

Drama aside, that's exactly once, about 16 years ago, and it was (i reckon) some kids that came in through an open window and took a backpack (cool cameo design), a gaming console, and my sons bike.

(Perth, Westerm Australia)

Total cost - well under theft insurance rates which I have yet to subscribe to.

Point being "nearly half" doesn't convey nearly as much infomation as the scare reaction to the statement warrents.

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Post by PragmaticPulp »

taeric wrote: post #125

Without comparing to other high density cities for basic theft, I don't really find this that useful. :( To wit, in Seattle we had our car broken into once. We also had a habit of forgetting the car keys /on top of the car/, such that we would have said we live in a very very safe place. Despite the time the car was broken into. When I lived in Atlanta, the general practice was not to lock your car, so that they woul…

> Without comparing to other high density cities for basic theft, I don't really find this that useful. :(

Why not? High crime rates are bad in any city. It doesn't become okay if multiple big cities have high crime rates.

It's weird to see how so many people are trying to normalize crime rates this high.

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Post by ltbarcly3 »

zachthewf wrote: post #174
uvdn7 wrote: post #75

I am genuinely curious about what’s the appeal of SF?

It still has a better early stage startup community than any city on the planet.

It did until about 2019. Now the best early stage startup community is in this place called Remote.

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Post by tomcam »

barbariangrunge wrote: post #37

What is the rate for other big cities? Is this a lot higher than usual, or only a little higher? The thing is that people steal things everywhere. Bikes. Cigarette lighters. Money left out. Scam items off Amazon or eBay is a form of theft. Your beer at parties. Lawn gnomes. I don’t know many people anywhere who haven’t had something stolen from them at some point, so I’m not sure what this is saying

I think we can all agree that lawn gnome theft is a hugely important problem that needs far more attention from law enforcement.
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