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Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm

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Re: Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm

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Post by mhitza »

beAbU wrote: post #63
rwmj wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When I went to China I got a phone to run WeChat, which I erased and reinstalled once I got back. Android phones are cheap now, you can get something which is quite decent for a couple hundred dollars.

Cut that by a factor of 10. If you need do be connected, but don't care about things like cameras or gaming specks, then I can get you an android phone for the equivalent of about $30. This is cheap enough to throw in the trash as you board for your flight home. Connectivity is a slightly larger problem. In some places you can get a prepaid SIM card for less than a dollar, other places need some form of registration.…

Good luck running even something as "simple" as slack on a $30 dollar Android phone. If new you usually want to throw in at least 150-250$ for an Android phone that doesn't run things with high latency, at least in my experience as a mid-range device user.

Re: Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm

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Post by tinus_hn »

viksit wrote: post #13

this is going to disproportionately affect people in the global south - there aren't data privacy laws that google and apple need to stick to. suddenly, any group that is not politically favorable in a country is going to be a target. HN can't hide behind the argument that this doesn't affect iOS. thats a very elitist argument. the majority of the world uses android.

It’s perfectly fair to point out that Apples approach, which HackerNews loves to whine about, prevents exactly this kind of spyware.

Re: Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm

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Post by themitigating »

Ekaros wrote: post #123
themitigating wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What if this person is 16 and can't vote. How is he responsible for the acts of the US government?

There is always the militias.

So he just has to be a member of one? How many meetings does he have to attend?, how much larping and dinner theatre does he have to do before he is allowed to criticize other countries without the burden of things past and current governments have done?

Are you bloody serious? For real real not for play play? Some other poster made the comment that "whataboutism" is deflection. Considering every country has done some amount of bad things, either in the past or now, according to you and other parents, no one would be allowed to criticize any other country's govermnet. That's the ultimate deflection.

Re: Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm

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Post by truemotive »

nixcraft wrote: post #161
worstestes wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where do authorities ask for your phone? Just curious

It happens everywhere, from the developed countries to the far east. You have zero rights when crossing the border at immigration control, especially when your passport is weak or they believe you will not leave the country. They log into your IG and WhatsApp and check everything. Otherwise, they will deny entry. They made it legal. Sometimes a person has nothing to hide but nerves first time traveller and gets sucke…

I carry two phones just in case

Nobody asks me for my second phone because nobody cares about brief interactions that distract them

It happens everywhere

from the developed countries to the far east (makes large sweeping gesture representing entire planet)

you have zero rights crossing the border at immigration control in these awful countries I am continuing to not mention for some reason.

Tell us where this happens.

Re: Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm

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Post by bdg »

kuboble wrote: post #41
bdg wrote: post #12

With the high churn of devices and increasing privacy intrusion, there's probably a small market for burner phones that will re-emerge just for apps in the next years.

Even using a burner phone doesn't fix the situation if you're still required to have the said phone with you all the time and it can't be turned off, it tracks your location, other phones you meet with etc.

I was thinking more about before/after the event to avoid it reaching to more details about your private life outside of that specific timespan, text messages, whatever tictoc harvests these days, etc.

Re: Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm

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Post by beebeepka »

mhitza wrote: post #181
beAbU wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cut that by a factor of 10. If you need do be connected, but don't care about things like cameras or gaming specks, then I can get you an android phone for the equivalent of about $30. This is cheap enough to throw in the trash as you board for your flight home. Connectivity is a slightly larger problem. In some places you can get a prepaid SIM card for less than a dollar, other places need some form of registration.…

Good luck running even something as "simple" as slack on a $30 dollar Android phone. If new you usually want to throw in at least 150-250$ for an Android phone that doesn't run things with high latency, at least in my experience as a mid-range device user.

I am no smartphone expert but it seems to me there are amazing options in the 200-250 euro range. Things with 8gb RAM, decent CPU, and storage. I would gift itto someone before throwing it away

Re: Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm

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Post by Dma54rhs »

polotics wrote: post #90

Since Electronic Arts righteously dumped FIFA like a ton of rotten bricks, why don't they organise a football world cup instead? Less corruption money must mean more leftover for the players and staff involved. Also instead of some nebulous process for the host country selection, get game owners to vote, they're already very securely identified. The time to ride on the complete stink the air conditioned slave-labour…

Football is too traditional to play EA Cup it already sounds like a McDonald's league.

Re: Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm

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Post by Ekaros »

truemotive wrote: post #175
AnonCoward42 wrote: post #78

Permissions from Aurora Store (3rd party to Play Store): Hayya: - control vibration - have full network access - prevent phone from sleeping - run at startup - run foreground service - view Wi-Fi connections - view network connections - access sensor data at a high sampling rate - access approximate location only in the foreground - access precise location only the foreground - listen to C2DM messages Etheraz: - acce…

“access sensor data at a high sampling rate“ If that isn’t some terminator shit right there, I don’t know what is.

Would it even be useful to access data like gyro, accelerometer, compass or proximity sensor at low rate useful? And what really is high sampling rate?
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