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Three Nord Stream gas pipelines damaged in one day

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Re: Three Nord Stream gas pipelines damaged in one day

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Post by lm28469 »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #173
lm28469 wrote: post #168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

- they're not egg cartons - what do you know about russian tank armor ? > To say the Russian military is operating with top kit denies the battlefield reality. Yes, but where did I say the opposite ? There are dozens of reports showing it's running on fumes, there is no need to ridicule ourselves by propagating factually wrong infos Saying "X fact" about russia is wrong doesn't mean someone supports their action. We…

> what do you know about russian tank armor ? Nothing. Don’t need to. Whether designers put useless armour on the tank or a factory worker messed with a well-designed tank is irrelevant. The tanks were kitted with worthless armour.

"Do you know US soldiers have literal plates as body armor ? it's even ceramic plates, just like the one you eat from. AHA how dumb can they be, ceramic armor aha "

That's how you sound right now

Re: Three Nord Stream gas pipelines damaged in one day

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Post by LargoLasskhyfv »

detaro wrote: post #176
LargoLasskhyfv wrote: post #175

Possibly related, but already flagged to death. Strange, innit? ;> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32994573 pointing to: https://www.volcanodiscovery.com/earthquakes/quake-info/7054...

it's not flagged...

Shows as [dead], why else would it?

edit: never mind, seen it mentioned elsewhere this thread now. (but still...)

Re: Three Nord Stream gas pipelines damaged in one day

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Post by detaro »

LargoLasskhyfv wrote: post #182
detaro wrote: post #176

Earlier quoted context omitted.

it's not flagged...

Shows as [dead], why else would it? edit: never mind, seen it mentioned elsewhere this thread now. (but still...)

if it were flagged, it would show as [flagged][dead]. Looking at the submission history for the domain, they've all been [dead] for years, so clearly the domain is banned.

Re: Three Nord Stream gas pipelines damaged in one day

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Post by pseudo0 »

ThePowerOfFuet wrote: post #171
pseudo0 wrote: post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The article mentions the hole in their argument and then glosses over it: > There are exceptions, but these are the general principles that bind speakers of Russian and English. These exceptions include collections of states (eg. the UAE, the US) and country names derived from regions (the Netherlands, the Congo, the Ukraine).

>These exceptions include collections of states (eg. the UAE, the US) and country names derived from regions Let's take these one by one: >the Netherlands This is plural: the Low Countries. You are referring to a group, same as the United Arab Emirates and the United States. >the Congo Which one? ... Exactly. >the Ukraine Already discussed, referring to it as a region denies its sovereignty.

The etymology of the Netherlands is the Dutch "nederland", or "lower lands". I'd consider "the lowlands" to fall into the region category, much in the same way that the Ukraine translates to "the frontier" or "the border".

> Which one? ... Exactly

What can I say, English is weird. The Gambia does the same, in both cases referring to the region around a particular river.

Re: Three Nord Stream gas pipelines damaged in one day

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

lm28469 wrote: post #181
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #173

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> what do you know about russian tank armor ? Nothing. Don’t need to. Whether designers put useless armour on the tank or a factory worker messed with a well-designed tank is irrelevant. The tanks were kitted with worthless armour.

"Do you know US soldiers have literal plates as body armor ? it's even ceramic plates, just like the one you eat from. AHA how dumb can they be, ceramic armor aha " That's how you sound right now

> it's even ceramic plates

Ceramic armour resists bullets. Cardboard doesn’t block or deflect threats to tanks in any form. (It’s not even suitable for collision mitigation.)

Re: Three Nord Stream gas pipelines damaged in one day

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Post by r721 »

>The Russian submarine that caught fire and killed 14 may have been designed to cut undersea internet cables

>"The Russians talk about these ships in this program doing bathymetric research and deep-ocean research, meaning they do stuff on the sea floor," Bryan Clark, a former US Navy officer and a submarine warfare expert, told Business Insider. "If they are doing research on the sea floor with a military submarine, they are probably also able to interdict or disrupt undersea cabling or other undersea infrastructure, like pipelines."

https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-submarine-losharik-un... (2019)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_submarine_Losharik

UPD Thread from a submarine expert:

https://twitter.com/CovertShores/status/1574750260743880710

Re: Three Nord Stream gas pipelines damaged in one day

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Post by LargoLasskhyfv »

fffobar wrote: post #87
samuell wrote: post #46

Biden himself told they would do it, and "promised they have ways to do it" (from ca 1:20): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OS4O8rGRLf8&t=82s

The Baltic Sea is very very shallow, with average depth of just 55 meters. It's not particularly difficult to do, sadly :( "Fun" fact, mostly unrelated: the Baltic sea floor is full of unexploded munitions from WW2, and some (still?) contained chemical weapons.

I'd think they would have cleared them before, instead of blindly laying some pipes in 'good faith'.

Re: Three Nord Stream gas pipelines damaged in one day

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Post by aa-jv »

serpix wrote: post #32
eunos wrote: post #27

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US since it destroys Putin's leverage against Germany.

please elaborate further how the US would benefit from destabilizing German gas supplies.

Straight from the horses mouth:

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/593153-biden-ins...

https://www.reuters.com/world/biden-germanys-scholz-stress-u...

Re: Three Nord Stream gas pipelines damaged in one day

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Post by randomcarbloke »

o_1 wrote: post #51
mberning wrote: post #30

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Alphabet agencies working overtime.

so much for being covert, they aren't too great their job.

You want it to be overt without being explicit, if it looked like an accident it wouldn't be threatening.
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