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Re: The tyranny of the supertweeter

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Post by treis »

gnz11 wrote: post #160
tsol wrote: post #130

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I was thinking about going into journalism for a time and an ex- broadcaster teacher of mine connected me with a journalist to talk to. One of the biggest things, he said, about being a journalist nowadays is you need to build your own brand. Most journalists nowadays don't get hired as staff writers, they mostly work freelance. So in order to stay relevant and keep getting work, they need to develop a SM presence an…

Not really all that different from the software industry.

I'd say it's pretty different. I don't have any social media brand to speak of and AFAIK neither do my co-workers.

Re: The tyranny of the supertweeter

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Post by imbnwa »

bachmeier wrote: post #92
SamBam wrote: post #79

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There's also an excellent Exra Klein podcast where he talks to game-philospher C. Thi Nguyen about Twitter's Like button's effect on journalists. [1] He says that as a journalist on twitter (which almost every journalist is) it's nearly impossible to get away from measuring your worth/impact by the number of likes you get. It's so buit into our minds, we can't not use Likes as a proxy for how engaging our story is. T…

This is less of a problem to me than the other side effect of like-driven journalism. If you only preach to the choir, you can get away with misleading or inaccurate claims. Like-driven journalism encourages a style where you present only some of the facts or even just make stuff up. Folks like stuff because of what it says. They don't care if it's partial truths or lies. Like-driven journalism quite literally punish…

So basically, how often is one presented with aporias on Twitter?

Re: The tyranny of the supertweeter

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Post by Bakary »

bnralt wrote: post #150
Bakary wrote: post #135

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The Mercator is like circumcision. There might be many reasons invoked for it, but the main reason is that it's just what people in the US are familiar with. Even with no real trade-offs it's fairly clear that Google would still have picked it.

Apparently Mercator wasn't the original projection they used[1]. But they found that it worked better for giving people directions because it preserved route angles in higher latitude regions (it's benefit for navigation is the reason it became so popular, from my understanding). For what it's worth, I feel like I don't actually come across the Mercator projection that often (I'd say the Robinson projection is more p…

I stand corrected!

Re: The tyranny of the supertweeter

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Post by [deleted] »

thepasswordis wrote: post #167
teachrdan wrote: post #163

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The Nazis were openly and explicitly engaged in genocide . They killed millions of people in death camps. They didn't talk about it, they didn't allude to it. They did it. MILLIONS of people were killed like cattle. This happened in real life. White nationalists are bad. Racists are bad. The people associating themselves with those people shouldn't be. Being a stupid ignorant racist, and building actual in real life…

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Re: The tyranny of the supertweeter

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Post by anigbrowl »

thepasswordis wrote: post #159

Here is an example of how insane twitter is: https://twitter.com/TristanSnell/status/1571629917372039168 This person, a "verified user", is claiming that this group of people is performing a "nazi salute". This claim has 20,000 likes, meaning it has influenced at least that many people. The video is very obviously a group of people praying. This person is perpetuating the idea that there are mainstream American polit…

Disingenuous BS. Since when are political rallies doubling up as evangelical revivals, and why? If I wanted to live in a theocracy I would move to Iran.

I don't care for this Tristan Snell person, an obvious political shill. But your protestations ring hollow. The psychological manipulation in this example and a recent Trump rally at Youngstown, Ohio (music playing over the speech, similar coordinated gestures of religiosity in the audience) are screamingly obvious.

Re: The tyranny of the supertweeter

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Post by MarkPNeyer »

pphysch wrote: post #169
SamBam wrote: post #79

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There's also an excellent Exra Klein podcast where he talks to game-philospher C. Thi Nguyen about Twitter's Like button's effect on journalists. [1] He says that as a journalist on twitter (which almost every journalist is) it's nearly impossible to get away from measuring your worth/impact by the number of likes you get. It's so buit into our minds, we can't not use Likes as a proxy for how engaging our story is. T…

Joseph Pulitzer, the prize's namesake, was simultaneously a media mogul and U.S. congressman. His name is often associated with the dawn of "yellow journalism" and USA imperial war propaganda. Point being, unethical incentives and corruption are at the foundation of the American journalism tradition. It did not start with Twitter or the internet.

Basically all of history was powerful people lying to everyone and mass media helping them do it.

For some reason people think the world is different today.

Re: The tyranny of the supertweeter

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Post by genericone »

jbuhbjlnjbn wrote: post #24
amadeuspagel wrote: post #2

A classic on this topic, more general: Most of Most of What You Read on the Internet is Written by Insane People [1]. [1]: https://www.reddit.com/r/slatestarcodex/comments/9rvroo/most...

There is a different explanation about the 'power posters' - not that they are "insane", but that it's their job. They get good amounts of money for doing what they do. As an addition, for the extreme cases it's most likely not a single person, but multiple people, posting under the same name.

Very ironically/interestingly, this was case for the big anti-american posts from mainland China:

Infamously anti-west personality Sima Nan: "Being anti-American is work while visiting the U.S. is life" https://youtu.be/Q0y84Oi3VW8

Short summary, his wife and child are U.S citizens, and he visits them often, but his entire career is made up of bashing the west, western values, and putting the ccp on a pedestal, and he's made a small fortune on this career... until his turn came.

Re: The tyranny of the supertweeter

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Post by anigbrowl »

thepasswordis wrote: post #167
teachrdan wrote: post #163

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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The Nazis were openly and explicitly engaged in genocide . They killed millions of people in death camps. They didn't talk about it, they didn't allude to it. They did it. MILLIONS of people were killed like cattle. This happened in real life. White nationalists are bad. Racists are bad. The people associating themselves with those people shouldn't be. Being a stupid ignorant racist, and building actual in real life…

> They didn't talk about it, they didn't allude to it. They did it.

Of course they talked about it, they did so for years before putting their genocidal aspirations into action.

> Is there a single US politician calling for this or anything even remotely aligned with it?

Sure: https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/washington-state-r...

This guy is popping on stage with Michael Flynn, who is doing a national tour combining 'Stop the Steal' election theft narratives with New Apostolic Revival theology.

Re: The tyranny of the supertweeter

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Post by [deleted] »

anigbrowl wrote: post #186
thepasswordis wrote: post #159

Here is an example of how insane twitter is: https://twitter.com/TristanSnell/status/1571629917372039168 This person, a "verified user", is claiming that this group of people is performing a "nazi salute". This claim has 20,000 likes, meaning it has influenced at least that many people. The video is very obviously a group of people praying. This person is perpetuating the idea that there are mainstream American polit…

Disingenuous BS. Since when are political rallies doubling up as evangelical revivals, and why? If I wanted to live in a theocracy I would move to Iran. I don't care for this Tristan Snell person, an obvious political shill. But your protestations ring hollow. The psychological manipulation in this example and a recent Trump rally at Youngstown, Ohio (music playing over the speech, similar coordinated gestures of rel…

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