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Queen Elizabeth II has died

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#181

Makes me wonder what sorts of things will be triggered by this event. I bet security services are on high alert, and for some reason I'm a little worried about getting on my flight in a couple hours.

I suspect you’re somewhat overthinking/over-worrying here. What scenario do you see playing out with regards to your flight?

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#182

Time to end on a high? Shall we just abandon this whole monarchy thing and time to flip over to a republic and leave the much revered queen as the last ever monarch of the UK? Seems like Scotland is going to go independent, and if Scotland do Wales will only be a matter of time so may as well just can it now?

Yes! Let's push this as hard as possible. Monarchies are an affront to all Enlightenment ideals and belong in the history books.

Are they?

Elizabeth nor Charles are claiming devine right. They are a unfiying vestige of times past, providing as she did a human constant, an embodiment of the Commonwealth.

So long as their heredity isn't overtly providing them the ability or write or enforce law, it does not seem an affront to democracy.

Re: Queen Elizabeth II has died

#183

Time to end on a high? Shall we just abandon this whole monarchy thing and time to flip over to a republic and leave the much revered queen as the last ever monarch of the UK? Seems like Scotland is going to go independent, and if Scotland do Wales will only be a matter of time so may as well just can it now?

With the queen gone the questions around royal consent and Prince Andrew and Charles nuttier opinions will be much harder to answer.

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post #121

It's weird, I've never considered myself a "royalist" but this news has affected me quite strongly. I just burst into tears unexpectedly on hearing this news and I don't quite understand why I feel so very sad. I guess I have grown up and lived my whole life (as a Brit) seeing and hearing the Queen, singing "God save the Queen" etc, and this news made me suddenly feel very old, very nostalgic, with the sense that all…

It's understandable, she's been a constant vague presence for a lot of British people. It feels like a minor part of our personal history died. I definitely feel saddened, even if I don't have a connection with royalty.

She's also been a moral authority. She avoided the soap opera situations that have dogged the rest of the moral family and frequently she's shown leadership. In WWII she trained as a mechanic so she could do something tangible to support the war effort.

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When she was born there were less than 2 billion people on Earth. Now there are almost 8 billion of us.

The crazy thing is that we not ever see 10 billion at this rate. Globally we are down to 2.1 births per woman, and the majority of nations now have a birth rate below 2, meaning most countries are below replacement. And even the positive birth rate countries are rapidly trending downwards (with the exceptions of Uzbekistan, Kahzakstan, and Iran). It will be very interesting to see how the population J curve flatlinin…

Follow up: I was curious about the math, so I thought others might find these numbers interesting as well:

At current continual growth rates (assuming the decline comes to a dead stop and remains steady), we will see 10 billion people late 2044.

If the decline of the last 10 years continues indefinitely, humanity would go extinct around 3913.

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#188

Time to end on a high? Shall we just abandon this whole monarchy thing and time to flip over to a republic and leave the much revered queen as the last ever monarch of the UK? Seems like Scotland is going to go independent, and if Scotland do Wales will only be a matter of time so may as well just can it now?

I know none of us knew her personally but this doesn’t seem like a sentiment shared by most, and it is definitely not something to bring up when she isn’t even in the ground yet.

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#189
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:( It's mind-boggling to me to think about how long 70 years of reign actually is. How many world leaders she has seen come and go. How much the world changed since then.

She reigned for about 1/3rd of the time America has existed. Incredible.

US of A, pardon for being a stickler

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Britain’s plan for when Queen Elizabeth II dies: POLITICO has obtained documents laying out Operation LONDON BRIDGE in granular detail https://www.politico.eu/article/queen-elizabeth-death-plan-b...

Due to her passing away in Scotland, I believe there is a different Operation in play, Operation Unicorn - https://www.thenational.scot/news/21224640.operation-unicorn...

Operation London Bridge still runs, Unicorn is a sub-plan that runs on top of London Bridge for this case.
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