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So basically the authorities outsourced a part of public safety to the ad companies?
Pretty much. The article says that the contracts require the lighting so that the area is illuminated. I'm gonna guess, however, that they wouldn't keep up the lighting if it weren't required. Which really isn't so surprising, considering how pervasive advertising is in many societies.
German digital signage ban prompts confusion
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#182Here in Germany, there was recently a leak in the news. It said that a single LED sign consumes as much energy as 10 single households[0]. Of course, the companies don't want to give any official information. That is pretty high for no real value for society in my opinion... [0] https://www.tagesschau.de/wirtschaft/technologie/led-reklame...
> That is pretty high for no real value for society in my opinion... There is a widespread belief that Advertising serves no purpose to humanity. Advertising is like anything in life: In high doses it is harmful. In lower doses it is useful. If there are regulators in your country that prevent advertisers from making false claims, even better. Advertising has helped me hone onto products and services in my whole life…
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> They are just largely uncontested I think this has a lot to do with the fact that the alternatives that have been tried have historically been either failures or catastrophes.
So much to be said about that trope... Are there seriously people who still believe in TINA? What a bleak way to see the world.
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Germany's coal and gas power is currently helping to power France. 4.3% of Germany's power generation is being exported to France at this very moment.
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Can you elaborate on the problems with France? If I were in government in France I'd be thrilled with nuclear power as an investment right about now
> Can you elaborate on the problems with France? 80% of their power is generated by nuclear. Of their nuclear plants, way over half the fleet has been offline for months because of inspections and sometimes substantial damages from age-related corrosion issues [1], and the other half is severely limited or cut off as well because the rivers that they depend on for cooling can't keep up [2]. And since the entire conti…
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Average power usage for a 1 person household in Germany is 1300 kwh/year (roughly, numbers vary, but not to a degree that it matters). That's about 150W sustained. So 1500W for a large sign, that's like 150 high power LED light bulbs, I guess that checks out. Anything that reduces ads in the public sphere is fine by me.
>1300 kwh/year this is extremely, extremely low. No heating, no cooling, no hot water, no car charging. A fridge alone tends to be over 400KW/h. Edit: polycaster listed close to 5kWh/year for 3+ household. 1person being 2k. So, extremely low estimate.
And I work from home on a gaming desktop...
Re: German digital signage ban prompts confusion
#187Here in Germany, there was recently a leak in the news. It said that a single LED sign consumes as much energy as 10 single households[0]. Of course, the companies don't want to give any official information. That is pretty high for no real value for society in my opinion... [0] https://www.tagesschau.de/wirtschaft/technologie/led-reklame...
> That is pretty high for no real value for society in my opinion... There is a widespread belief that Advertising serves no purpose to humanity. Advertising is like anything in life: In high doses it is harmful. In lower doses it is useful. If there are regulators in your country that prevent advertisers from making false claims, even better. Advertising has helped me hone onto products and services in my whole life…
Total disagree. New trends, improvements communicate itself one or the other way. If I want a new X, I'd rather research on my own, best are objective tests, or worse then selective advertisements I choose to view.
Even non-aggressive mild advertisements that just try to snatch my attention involuntarily are just not needed and a pain. The world could be much better without that crap.
I don't buy the argument that advertisements were necessary for manufacutring at scale, any source?
> Think of advertising as a way of companies to say "Hey! here's something we're proud of -- please have a look.
Erm wtf what, no, just no, leave me alone please. I want to find you in a dedicated magazine / tests / reviews if your something is something I currently want, otherwise this attention grab is hostile.
Re: German digital signage ban prompts confusion
#188Here in Germany, there was recently a leak in the news. It said that a single LED sign consumes as much energy as 10 single households[0]. Of course, the companies don't want to give any official information. That is pretty high for no real value for society in my opinion... [0] https://www.tagesschau.de/wirtschaft/technologie/led-reklame...
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> The bigger problem is that Germany doesn't have any more recent nuclear power plants due to public pressure France hasn't either and they don't have public pressure against it. The are still trying to build a single one, being a decade late and billions more expensive. > or more recently Fukushima, which really just culturally echoed the existing memories of Chernobyl Currently we think about the nuclear fleet in t…
> they don't have public pressure against it There _is_ public pressure against nuclear, but it's at 50/50 vs support for nuclear. It has become a mostly partisan topic. > We are not far away from a new Fukushima, but this time in Europe. Except we technically _already_ had "Fukushima in Europe" 40 years ago, and for most people, life just went on. I agree that if anything goes bad a the Ukrainian plant (FSM forbids)…
where is the pressure in France against nuclear? I can remember civil war like situations at construction sites in Germany years ago. A political movement that spawned a new party which now is, again, in a ruling coalition.
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To be fair, the problem with nuclear power in Germany is bigger than that the existing nuclear plants are being shut down. It's actually a good idea to shut them down eventually as they're old and inefficient. Calling them "fully functioning" is a bit of a rose tinted glasses type of situation. The bigger problem is that Germany doesn't have any more recent nuclear power plants due to public pressure and instead just…
> The bigger problem is that Germany doesn't have any more recent nuclear power plants due to public pressure France hasn't either and they don't have public pressure against it. The are still trying to build a single one, being a decade late and billions more expensive. > or more recently Fukushima, which really just culturally echoed the existing memories of Chernobyl Currently we think about the nuclear fleet in t…
It's hilarious how the Western politicians and mass media seriously blame Russia for shelling a nuclear plant which it controls for a number of months. And a lot of people either blindly trust this narrative, or intentionally spread misinformation with the sole goal to demonize Russia as much as possible. It reminds me how Donetsk rebels were blamed for shelling of civilians in territories which they control.
It clearly shows how far we are in the post-truth world. Even a tiny bit of critical thinking is enough to understand who truly does the shelling, but titles like "Ukrainian Army shells a nuclear plant" are too inconvenient for the current political climate.
As far as I know, the goal of shelling (which for the time being does not target the reactors or the spent fuel storage) is to discourage Russia from disconnecting the Zaporizhzhia nuclear plant from the Ukrainian grid and connect it with the Russian grid instead.