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Re: EPB launches America’s first community-wide 25 gig internet service

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Post by agilob »

basilgohar wrote: post #170
TylerE wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder how much of a push this will really be? For the vast majority of people even vanilla gigabit is of limited benefit... that's on the edge of what a consumer SSD is writing at.

There's more to Internet than downloading data straight to disk. Families can have multiple kids taking online classes while both parents are also working remotely. Many families have multiple devices per person that can be streaming, downloading, OR UPLOADING (commonly the aspect shortchanged in residential Internet) which, at times, can easily saturate a 1Gb connection. We always need to advance because others are…

>Families can have multiple kids taking online classes while both parents are also working remotely. Many families have multiple devices per person that can be streaming, downloading, OR UPLOADING (commonly the aspect shortchanged in residential Internet) which, at times, can easily saturate a 1Gb connection.

My 37mbps can do that for 2 people constantly working from home and most of the time on meetings.

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Post by machinawhite »

tenebrisalietum wrote: post #84
icedchai wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You may be off a bit. A gigabit is only around 125 megabytes a second. A low end consumer SSD is closer to a 550 megabytes second, or ~4 gigabits. A high-end NVMe SSD will get you 3 or 4 gigabytes a second. 30 to 40x a gigabit!

Grandma running pirated Word 2007 on an ancient dust-clogged Dell laptop that her grandson upgraded with a cheap 256GB Lite-On mSATA SSD stolen from a throwaway work computer is probably only getting 125MByte/sec and certainly lower than that due to the plethora of IE addons constantly writing to it.

1. Stop confronting me

2. Can confirm these writing speeds

Re: EPB launches America’s first community-wide 25 gig internet service

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Post by gnopgnip »

r00fus wrote: post #9

Wow this reads like an announcement from a different timeline (like the one that was promised when fiber was promoted in the early 2000s). 25Gb/s symmetric? In the middle of Tennessee? Meanwhile I have traffic-shaped Comcast and no fiber in sight in Silicon Valley.

Check with sonic, they cover a big chunk of silicon valley with symmetrical gig fiber.

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Post by RektBoy »

r00fus wrote: post #9

Wow this reads like an announcement from a different timeline (like the one that was promised when fiber was promoted in the early 2000s). 25Gb/s symmetric? In the middle of Tennessee? Meanwhile I have traffic-shaped Comcast and no fiber in sight in Silicon Valley.

Whut? You don't have internet in Silicon freakin' Valley? Lol

Re: EPB launches America’s first community-wide 25 gig internet service

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Post by Xcelerate »

r00fus wrote: post #9

Wow this reads like an announcement from a different timeline (like the one that was promised when fiber was promoted in the early 2000s). 25Gb/s symmetric? In the middle of Tennessee? Meanwhile I have traffic-shaped Comcast and no fiber in sight in Silicon Valley.

Haha, I work remotely now in a rural unincorporated area near Knoxville, and we get AT&T fiber at 5 Gbps, with the local municipality rolling out 10 Gbps soon. When I was living in Redwood City, nothing like that was available at our address. I was astonished at the poor internet provider options in Silicon Valley.

Re: EPB launches America’s first community-wide 25 gig internet service

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Post by CommanderData »

basilgohar wrote: post #170
TylerE wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder how much of a push this will really be? For the vast majority of people even vanilla gigabit is of limited benefit... that's on the edge of what a consumer SSD is writing at.

There's more to Internet than downloading data straight to disk. Families can have multiple kids taking online classes while both parents are also working remotely. Many families have multiple devices per person that can be streaming, downloading, OR UPLOADING (commonly the aspect shortchanged in residential Internet) which, at times, can easily saturate a 1Gb connection. We always need to advance because others are…

My family of 6 would stream Netflix, game and I'd be pretty heavy handed myself all on my router tethered to my 4G connection while we were switching providers. We didn't notice anything surprisingly. Three was the provider at the time.

Re: EPB launches America’s first community-wide 25 gig internet service

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Post by omegalulw »

basilgohar wrote: post #170
TylerE wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder how much of a push this will really be? For the vast majority of people even vanilla gigabit is of limited benefit... that's on the edge of what a consumer SSD is writing at.

There's more to Internet than downloading data straight to disk. Families can have multiple kids taking online classes while both parents are also working remotely. Many families have multiple devices per person that can be streaming, downloading, OR UPLOADING (commonly the aspect shortchanged in residential Internet) which, at times, can easily saturate a 1Gb connection. We always need to advance because others are…

20 kids x 25mbps streams each is still only half a gig. You are way off here. The only way you saturate a gig is if you download big games from Steam, etc. If each of your kid is doing that you would probably run into fair use limits and have to set up a central PC for catching downloads and stuff but that's still a niche use case.

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Post by WJW »

machinawhite wrote: post #182
tenebrisalietum wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Grandma running pirated Word 2007 on an ancient dust-clogged Dell laptop that her grandson upgraded with a cheap 256GB Lite-On mSATA SSD stolen from a throwaway work computer is probably only getting 125MByte/sec and certainly lower than that due to the plethora of IE addons constantly writing to it.

1. Stop confronting me 2. Can confirm these writing speeds

I'm now imagining this ancient grandma writing 125 MB/s into her pirated text editor, just cranking out volume after volume of cheap detective and romance novels. Later, after her death, it is discovered that this lady was the ghostwriter behind all of the top 50 bestsellers of the last 30 years. She would write faster too, if it weren't for that crappy SSD her grandchildren set her up with.

Re: EPB launches America’s first community-wide 25 gig internet service

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Post by jcutrell »

digdugdirk wrote: post #73

Chattanooga Tennessee, for those curious but not curious enough to read the article. I'm intrigued by the city's push for this community co-op high speed internet - does anyone here have any experience with how the city has changed before/after the "gig-city" push? And did pandemic work from home change/accelerate things at all?

I have been here for a while, in the earliest days of the gig there was a mini-rush of startups to Chatt. Low cost of living, relatively small/quiet city, access to basically all major southern cities (barring southern Florida) by either a quick flight or couple hour drive… makes sense that it just works out nicely.

I live about 20mi out from town, in a relatively rural area, and we still get excellent 1Gbps here. They wired as many drops as I asked for when we built here. It’s like a dream for a remote worker.

The city still has presence from some startups (I’m a bit out of the loop on who all is here), and I’ve known quite a few remote engineers who have lived in the area as well. Not sure how much this differs from an alternate universe where Comcast rules the land.

EPB is excellent all around. Service is incredibly consistent, it’s a bill I happily pay every month.

Re: EPB launches America’s first community-wide 25 gig internet service

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Post by mrweasel »

basilgohar wrote: post #170
TylerE wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder how much of a push this will really be? For the vast majority of people even vanilla gigabit is of limited benefit... that's on the edge of what a consumer SSD is writing at.

There's more to Internet than downloading data straight to disk. Families can have multiple kids taking online classes while both parents are also working remotely. Many families have multiple devices per person that can be streaming, downloading, OR UPLOADING (commonly the aspect shortchanged in residential Internet) which, at times, can easily saturate a 1Gb connection. We always need to advance because others are…

My guess is that most people will just use whatever router is supplied by the ISP, and those are going the be the cheapest China has to offer. Even if it is Wifi6, that will max out at around 1Gbps. Some might run Ethernet to their office or consoles, but I'd guess that most will just use wifi. There's also the issue of the networking gear. Home users will just buy 1Gbps equipment, or slower, if that's what fits their price point.

For future use, and businesses it is nice to see speeds above 1Gbps being rolled out. For now though, promising 25Gbps to residential is easy marketing. The ISPs knows that it will barely be used.

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