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Re: Tell HN: Razorpay a YC company shared donor data under a Section 91 order

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Post by saimiam »

throwaway_1928 wrote: post #119
ptero wrote: post #90

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The problem with this approach is that a vague "because terrorism" can justify a heavy handed approach to a very large set of policies which have nothing to do with terrorism. And "because terrorism", "because covid", "because child abuse" become convenient tools for the government to force this or that policy on its citizens. It is a lot easier to claim "because terrorism" than to argue a policy on merits and respon…

If terrorists attack Americans, they are called 'terrorists'. If terrorists attack Indians, they are called 'militants' or simply 'fighters'.

I’m old enough to remember when Indian terrorists used to call up journalists and editors and demand that they be referred to as militants.

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smashah wrote: post #111
methusala8 wrote: post #88

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And India will reciprocate by boycotting all those countries which try to do this. But you are starting a new type of apartheid.

As is your right. It will need to start from the individual level so I will be encouraging everyone around me to limit their exposure to Indian businesses.

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Post by modi15 »

honkler wrote: post #121
methusala8 wrote: post #65

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I agree, but We need focus now on Hindu Terrorism. That's the major threat to the country and the world.

Exactly. No one is talking about how a Muslim tailor was killed by a bunch of Hindus and brazenly captured in video which also threatened the country's PM of a similar fate. The Hindu community then proceeded to pelt stones on the Police which came to arrest the killers.

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Post by eldaisfish »

wtmt wrote: post #169

The police made a different statement and claimed that they had only requested RazorPay donor information of any foreign donors to AltNews (which claimed that it had restricted payments only from Indian citizens in India), and that they hadn’t asked RazorPay to disable the account of AltNews. Yet, RazorPay disabled the account for a day and then enabled it. Now, the request was made under a law (CRPC 91) that allows…

The rule of law in india is an elaborate sham. The law is whatever you are told by any tentacle of the Indian government. The worst part is that there is no recourse - literally none. Many in the west don't have a good grasp of how the legal and administrative systems function in a country like india.

As for "largest democracy" it is true if you consider India's voting system. It is among the best in the world at access and transparency. Unfortunately, every other aspect of democracy is a joke in india.

The law you cited is intentionally vague. It is this way to give the government and administration the means to weaponize the state against the little guy.

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Post by saimiam »

ahamedirshad123 wrote: post #143
throwaway_1928 wrote: post #120

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Razorpay might be in trouble for processing foreign funds without FCRA approval.

If you are an Indian citizen, please consider donating to them. And by that way you can verify yourself. https://pages.razorpay.com/altnews

Done. ₹5k. Keep journalist-ing. Good luck. Fcuk these high handed politicians.

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Post by [deleted] »

honkler wrote: post #126
methusala8 wrote: post #88

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And India will reciprocate by boycotting all those countries which try to do this. But you are starting a new type of apartheid.

india already does aparthied of it's minorities, dalits (lower castes). So why not?

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Re: Tell HN: Razorpay a YC company shared donor data under a Section 91 order

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Post by throwaway_62022 »

sateesh wrote: post #55
ramraj07 wrote: post #40

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Heres the interesting thing though. A majority of Indian citizens would agree with this overreach. If the majority agrees with heavy handed tactics and they are enforced by elected officials with at least reasonably fair elections then is it right to call it an autocracy? I don’t agree with any of this of course but it is unfortunate reality here.

The phenomenon what you mention is called "Tyranny of Majority", great many thinkers have indeed weighed on this.

Folks belonging to majority can get caught on the wrong side of the fence too - https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/editor-arreste...

I believe the problem is laws related to religion and hate speech. They are stupid. Section 295 is non-bailable offence and can be easily abused by either side to placate group that feels offended.

The discussions about India sliding into authoritarian is interesting because strictly speaking many of these laws are pretty old. I wish that these laws did not exist but strictly speaking these laws have been abused to placate Hindus, Muslims, Christians(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weeping_crucifix_in_Mumbai) at different times.

Re: Tell HN: Razorpay a YC company shared donor data under a Section 91 order

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Post by throwaway_62022 »

shaan7 wrote: post #30
RicoElectrico wrote: post #18

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India is weird. It's not really called authoritarian (rankings don't classify it as such), but there are many similar stories of government dysfunction and overreach. Maybe someone else has a word for them?

Yeah its only "sort of" authoritarian, in most regions you can live quite a free life. The cases where it becomes authoritarian is when it comes to religion and criticism of the government. This is the reason that the majority of the population does not even believe in issues that exist (social, political, ecological or otherwise).

As I mentioned above - criticism of any kind of religion can get you in trouble in India[1][2]. But we should not lump that with criticism of government.

Do you have any examples, where someone was arrested for simply criticising govt actions?

1. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/editor-arreste...

2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weeping_crucifix_in_Mumbai

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