Everybody commenting on this should quit their job and work on climate change at the object level if they’re not already. That means: deploying existing solutions to reduce carbon emissions at scale, and commercializing new methods of doing so in order to deploy them. There are a lot of jobs in the field, and doing the work beats metaphors and speculation. Check climatebase.org for climate jobs and get to work.
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#183Earlier quoted context omitted.
Poorer people are always worse off, that's true, but we're talking about global climate change and its effects can devastate anyone on the planet. The climate is a complex system into which more and more energy is being input. That's more likely to produce sudden, drastic and unpredictable changes. It's not just simply going to get hotter. So it's entirely possible that huge swathes of the US become largely uninhabit…
What I'm really saying is that the obvious direct effects of climate change are likely going to be blamed on people. It's going to get to the point where a poor person can't live in Mumbai - literally, you can't survive exposure to the temperatures that are going to happen. But when those people move north to escape the heat, their migration is going to be blamed on all the things we blame current migration on, rathe…
This very issue has been raised by the US military as a security threat going forward.
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#185Another option is to pump the brakes . > “ As the lockdown to stop the spread of coronavirus in India continues, pollution levels across much of the country have dropped sharply. Now some residents in northern India say they can see the snow-capped Himalayas 200 kilometres away for the first time in 30 years. ” [1] If we had a global deflationary economic system, the incentive to invest in capital and engage in consu…
You mean most of the work will be piled up on a handful of full time employees which leaves a huge percentage of the population unemployed and destitue and ready to rebel against the system.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EKd6WURBqOY
>Under a deflationary economic system, a touch over $480,000 in savings would yield an effective “UBI” of $1000/mo [2].
What if people decide to have less children to protect them from the rent seeking conducted by the rich families that inherited wealth over centuries? What if the above unemployed people die from starvation and are no longer there to guarantee the value of your money?
>Once adopted by the entire world, a global currency of fixed supply controlled by computer algorithms could achieve this. Humans would voluntarily work less and pollute less.
Voluntarily? Are you sure about that? Aren't you just trying to make some transactions illegal by forcing a less effective medium of exchange? Also we already tried this and it failed not only with the gold standard but also with Bitcoin.
If it were that simple the Roman empire wouldn't have collapsed. No currency in history would have collapsed.
You are also discounting the fact that deflation encourages corruption as gaining money through war, crime, trafficking, environmental destruction, political bribes becomes highly profitable as once you are locked in and got a lucrative 10 million dollars you will earn more from those savings than you can earn from being an upstanding politician. Hence there is an intensive pressure to destroy physical and social capital for a share of the fixed supply currency.
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The differences in policies were heavily hyped, but if you look at overall policy and people's actual individual behaviour both Florida and California went through pretty stringent lockdowns. In practice a lot of work places enforced social distancing, masks, pushed vaccines. The two states certainly had much more similar public behaviour and policies with each other than either had with some other countries like Ecu…
> both Florida and California went through pretty stringent lockdowns In Australia, police would patrol the streets to ensure people were staying within a 5 km radius of their residence, and to ensure they were only out for a reason deemed essential by the government. This was accompanied by international, interstate and intrastate border closures, i.e. you couldn’t enter Australia, and couldn’t enter another state w…
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This works really well if you have $480,000 in savings, but it doesn't really work if you have 0 savings, or debt. Deflation, with its disincentives to investment or economic growth, would reduce employment and real wages. Most Americans would lose their jobs or see their wages cut as the economy ground to a halt. Anyone with debt would likely be trapped working for the rest of their life at subsistence wages, never…
Hyperinflation of the old currency would erase all debt denominated in it as we shift to a global deflationary economic system. Once in the deflationary environment, the cost of borrowing would be higher, and there would be less reason to work, consume and invest. Hence, there would be less incentive to take on debt. Many things are preferable to having 0 savings and a planet on fire.
If you have a properly tuned money system you would expect it to stabilize at some level. Cycles should be the exception and full employment the rule as says law implies. If you want to discourage consumption you should introduce consumption taxes for natural resources, co2 and other forms of pollution.
Really, the answer is so obvious. You need to let the interest rate on cash be negative like -4% and then give the central bank the task to do price level targeting. The problem with deflation is that the optimal real interest rate is 0% but if the nominal interest rate is at 0% then the real interest becomes positive. A positive interest on money effectively acts as a competitor for labor. Anything that uses labor must earn at least this interest rate hence the economy must grow. If the economy stands still there isn't enough money to service existing debt. You will get an inevitable currency collapse because you didn't consider for the case where the economy stops growing even for just a few years.
If that doesn't convince you let me tell you that a negative interest rate makes deflation palatable to the public by maintaining full employment. High interest debt is prone to default which results in an increased risk of losing your investment which lowers the effective yield of the debt. A borrower that can only pay back $10000 will only pay back that amount regardless of the interest rate, so increasing the interest rate increases the risk of default without increasing the overall return on investment. If the interest rate is cut low enough that it asks for only $10000 then you will get the same $10000 back with almost no risk, but from the perspective of the borrower his life wasn't negatively disrupted by the process of defaulting. Hence once you adjust for risk, high interest and low interest debt can have the same yield. However, in the high interest case, the borrower may be fooled into believing that he can pay his debt back, so he is strongly encouraged to work more and convince others to consume more, in short he will advocate for higher economic growth.
Won't lowering interest rates lead to stimulating the economy and more debt? Actually, no. If you have negative interest rates you can abandon QE and raise the reserve ratio, in fact, you can do price level targeting (no inflation/deflation) to control the money supply according to monetarist theories which assume a constant velocity of money. Saved money is dead money, hence the need to force ever greater quantities of money into the economy to keep it alive, if you control the velocity directly, you don't need to keep adding new money. The miracle of Wörgl currency circulated 200 times faster than the national Austrian currency and therefore didn't need any deficit spending whatsoever, the money supply was somewhere around 10 per person, the local government ran all social spending programmes against unemployment on a balanced budget which is absurd considering that it was a poor indebted classic deficit spending town with 30% unemployment before Unterguggenberger became mayor.
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I'm sure that tyranny of the majority will lead us to enlightened places...
Thank god we have the rich to care for us instead, they know what's best.
I sometimes wonder if communism is just capitalism taken too far. E.g. capitalism devolved into monopolies and communism just skips straight to having the state be the ultimate monopoly.
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It's not even a book by that title, it's an interview of him where the interviewer included the word communism in the title of the interview. I've read the books referred to in the interview and they definitely aren't about communism.
You read the book Walkaway? Where the first chapter is called "Communist Party", where the protagonists of the book take over a furniture factory to produce free furniture for their friends, then go off to live in a world where machines provide for everyone and no one is required to work for their survival? Are you familiar with the Marxist concept of "worker ownership of the means of production?" That is what they a…
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It's more like we are stuck in a confined space and slowly gassing ourselves with CO2 and we are arguing over turning the engine off. Oh, wait, no, it is literally that.
I feel like the analogy has to be fleshed out with the caveat that "turning the engine off" kills some > 50% of the people in the confined space right away.
A radical program to move all power generation, transport, and home heating to renewables would result in radically cheaper energy and transport for all.
But the people enriched by scarce energy would not be anymore.