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Re: My New Sony NW-A55 Walkman

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I am mostly confused by what the author thinks the selling point is. > I can’t describe what a breath of fresh air this is compared to how bad modern smartphone music and streaming apps have become. Well, I was hoping they would try to describe it, because personally, I would have to wear my most deeply shaded nostalgia glasses to think that MP3 player UX has ever been comparable to what Spotify offers nowadays. And…

In terms of UX, it's really hard to beat high fidelity audio and hardware buttons. Spotify is just an app. The real experience is the playback.

Hardware buttons I agree with. But the Sony NW-A55 Walkman we are comparing against requires constant touchscreen interaction too so it's not really any better than a smart phone. Plus most phones have hardware buttons for volume anyway.

As for high fidelity audio, I doubt there is much between devices these days. I remember back when I was buying portable cassette and, later, CD players there did used to be a real noticeable difference between the audio fidelity of different brands (ironically with Sony often cashing in on their brand and than having worse fidelity than hardware from significantly cheaper competitors). However these days everyone is listening to lossy compression over bluetooth so there isn't really going to be much room for the host hardware to improve. As always, the headphones you use will make much more of an impact.

Re: My New Sony NW-A55 Walkman

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As the happy owner of a NW-Z507 (and matching Sony 1000XM4 earbuds and a more traditional WH-XB900N over-the-ear headset), the Sony Walkman lineup is worth every single dollar! It's helped me rediscover some of my classics! The 507 is Android, which was both a pro (more apps) and con (battery life) especially since the Sony default player is a bit special. I didn't need Android as I don't use streaming, but I wanted…

I'd love to A-B these to my trusty old FiiO X5 with Sennheiser HD-650's (at home) or IE8i's (when exercising). Hearing the sound-stage and subtle do-dads buried by lesser set-ups is a pet-peeve of mine. A very important, perhaps dominant, factor in all of this is how the music was ripped/encoded. Except in my car, for which I did separate rips, I don't bother with MP3-320. For the X5, having 200 CDs ripped via WMA9 l…

You might be interested in building your own Class A amps. The sound is amazing.

See https://diyaudiostore.com/

https://www.diyaudio.com/community/

for details. Hobby-ist driven, fantastic stuff.

Re: My New Sony NW-A55 Walkman

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Beautiful hardware let down by its software? Sounds like every Sony product I've ever bought.

In defense of Sony's software/firmware team I'd argue that we've also been repeatedly burned by Sony's flawed hardware full of their endless NIH proprietary BS (e.g. Memory Stick, UMD, Minidisc, ATRAC, Betamax, to name just a few).

MiniDisc wasn’t proprietary, it was available from many manufacturers: https://www.minidisc.org/equipment_browser.html

And the hardware itself was great, even when it was for a proprietary standard.

Re: My New Sony NW-A55 Walkman

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Regarding the interface: no. I bought one of these and regretted it ever since. It may well be better than the competition currently, but it is still got a shitty interface that demands your attention for anything. Small example: to switch off you have to press and hold the off button (edit: a few seconds), then it pops up a modal but asks you whether you really want to turn it off. Err, yes please? The 'off' button…

Also Sony's preinstalled music app is the worst I've ever seen. It cannot create/edit playlists or playback queues. It can only delete playlists, and whenever you do that the app will interrupt music playback for a second. It can only display album cover thumbnails if their resolution is around 80x80 or lower. Thanks to Android it's possible to install alternatives, but a more lightweight system would have been preferrable.

It can only charge the battery while switched on. The last time the battery was at 15% when I plugged it in, and the Walkman instantly booted up Android, draining the battery to 7% before it started charging. I do not know what happens if the battery charge isn't enough to boot up the OS and I'm too afraid to try.

It's a really neat device and I like using it, but it has so many puzzling quirks.

Re: My New Sony NW-A55 Walkman

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I am mostly confused by what the author thinks the selling point is. > I can’t describe what a breath of fresh air this is compared to how bad modern smartphone music and streaming apps have become. Well, I was hoping they would try to describe it, because personally, I would have to wear my most deeply shaded nostalgia glasses to think that MP3 player UX has ever been comparable to what Spotify offers nowadays. And…

> MP3 player UX has ever been comparable to what Spotify offers nowadays. You might have different experiences to me. My iPod was never a distraction whilst driving in the way that Spotify, with it's manifold failure modes and inconsistent/unresponsive UX, can be. With depressing regularity I drive without either music or podcasts because that's preferable to dying (or killing someone else) in a car crash because I'm…

I find Apple Music to be pretty good except in CarPlay where the features that ostensibly make driving safer make it more dangerous. If I'm parked, I have access to the whole collection. If I'm moving, there's a tiny fraction available, or I can use Siri to try to get what I want. If course, Siri is stuck on one language at a time and my collection has many, some of which I can't even pronounce. What could have been a quick scroll to find the album or artist I want becomes a frustrating experience in finding something acceptable for the mood.

I'll agree that people with early iPods had an easy time finding their music. If you truly love recommendation engines, that old style is not for you. But it would be nice to have the same interface on CarPlay for the rest of us.

Re: My New Sony NW-A55 Walkman

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I am mostly confused by what the author thinks the selling point is. > I can’t describe what a breath of fresh air this is compared to how bad modern smartphone music and streaming apps have become. Well, I was hoping they would try to describe it, because personally, I would have to wear my most deeply shaded nostalgia glasses to think that MP3 player UX has ever been comparable to what Spotify offers nowadays. And…

The ability of such players to be operated blindly, and to give audio feedback on operations, is a major advantage. Then also the pocketability, compared to today’s huge phones. Lastly, being distraction-free because they are dedicated to sound file playback. No internet, no ads, no hit-and-miss recommendations, no connection issues. Just play what you know you have and like. It’s a simpler life where you have full control.

Re: My New Sony NW-A55 Walkman

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Hottest of takes : A shitty music app on my phone like Spotify is 1000x more convenient than a dedicated music device will ever be. As a society we already processed and answered this question in the late 00's. PMP's (heh, remember that term?) suck. All-in-one devices are better Hot-take over.

> As a society we already processed and answered this question in the late 00's

Yes, but I think this is being revisited. Vinyl continues to grow for example. Some of us are going away from single devices which can do everything, but can also control and spy on you for everything.

With single devices it feels like you're the curator of a collection just for you. With Spotify it feels like you're just an ear that's being leased.

Even if you don't like physical media, it's nice to have a collection that you can depend on. You never know when Spotify will take stuff away from you, or just won't add more obscure stuff. (Although, given how left wing Spotify is, I was quite surprised that you can find Werwolf by Absurd. I'm not sure how long that will last.)

Re: My New Sony NW-A55 Walkman

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I too assumed that dedicated MP3 players were relegated to very low-budget devices, and I didn't realize that Sony was still producing the Walkman line. I decided to take a look at their line up to what was happening in the space - https://electronics.sony.com/audio/walkman-digital-recorders... Boy... what a massive range of prices. There's a touchscreen-less device for $75, one resembling the one described by the au…

I use a Shanling. Awesome device, audiophile sound, lower price.

They have several devices, old and new, some with an in-house UI on Linux and others atop Android, at vastly different prices. So this comment isn't very clear or helpful.

Re: My New Sony NW-A55 Walkman

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I'm surprised there hasn't been a successful open hardware project for a portable music player. Rockbox, a low power SoC, some decent DAC, a basic display - epaper would be kind of neat - and preferably a standard battery - something like the Nokia BL-5C.

I don’t find it surprising. It’s a solved problem. Every phone has a music player built-in, you can even choose which one to use from hundreds of options. Offline, streaming, self-hosted cloud, the options are nearly infinite. Even if you don’t love the lack of headphone jack in the typical phone [1], the solution is an adapter that costs less than $10. What open hardware project can compete with that? [1] Non-audiop…

Most phones don't have expandable storage which can get limiting if you're using the device to do more than just music

Re: My New Sony NW-A55 Walkman

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Yup. I am definitely wouldnt call myself an audiophile, but I like my over ear headphones. I switch them easily between my desktop, my laptop, and my cell phone. They never die. Then I take my phone to my ten year old car and plug an aux cable in (it has Bluetooth but it is garbage - slow to connect, bad quality for music (regular skipping etc). Then when I travel to family's houses and want to play something over th…

There are still times when you want Bluetooth. For example when you want to pair with someone else's Bluetooth speaker at a party.

Yes, fortunately including an aux port doesn't preclude also including Bluetooth. To quote the article:

> It has NFC for pairing with wireless headphones, but it also has a headphone jack so you can choose. Shock of horrors

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