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Who is going to replace Google for us?

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Re: Who is going to replace Google for us?

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Google killed itself with the switch from good ol' finely tuned PageRank to blackbox neural networks with messy loss functions. It's still light years ahead of the competition

> It's still light years ahead of the competition How do you figure? I never use Google and get through my searches just fine. What am I missing?

Bing, Yandex and DDG just don't achieve the same level of relevancy for me. Their indexes are missing many good results that Google gives out straightaway

Re: Who is going to replace Google for us?

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I’m intrigued. It looks open for tackling and there is already, a product that very few people know about. From what I have heard it was built at Netflix, was inspired by Sphinx’s-gravity, Mentat, and CQRS knowledge base software solutions I.e: JanusGraph/Galileo. A form of Senantic-Persistence with Hybrid Index Memory appending A secondary index via the FoundationDB HTAP tuplestore layer as a service. From what I heard, they broke PostcresQL and cosmos. Very similar to gremlin, but Gremlin, like this product they say it’s about to be bought by Tim Draco. It’s a search engine, I saw the snapshot I swear. QIt’s a Webflow meets OpenAI Erlang Web service with React front end and a Lucene layer for Prompt transpilation at the sink

Re: Who is going to replace Google for us?

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I unironically do that. Maybe I should publish? We could make a small project that just has interesting websites and reviews? Yelp for the interesting web?

And you could call it something quirky, like Yippee!

No, I'm not based in the valley :/

Re: Who is going to replace Google for us?

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I unironically do that. Maybe I should publish? We could make a small project that just has interesting websites and reviews? Yelp for the interesting web?

I think some aggregators, like Jason Kottke, post lots of interesting things, but not usually the weird, unpolished, personal stuff that I associate with the 90s web. Something like early Yahoo would be cool.

Well i wasn't really alive back then, closest i can do is tumblr

Re: Who is going to replace Google for us?

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post #155
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Do people miss the Google of old, or the Web of old? The Web used to be very information dense. It was built from the ground up by specialists and enthusiasts, educational and governmental institutions, and groups of like-minded individuals. Then it became commercialized and commodified. Entire industries popped up to shovel mass-produced crap to masses of people through Amazon, Google, Facebook, etc. Forums became s…

I miss the non-commercial web of old. It's got into the point where I think my ultimate search engine is one that ranks pages by fewest ads. And I get that people make a living by putting advertising on their pages. I'm not really against that. (Though I don't do that myself for my own reasons, I wouldn't presume to tell other people what to do with their websites.) But it's been abused to the point where number of a…

Teclis has a neat approach to this:

> we count the number of uBlock Origin blocked requests on the page, and if too many, we kick it out, leaving only "clean" pages in the index.

Re: Who is going to replace Google for us?

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post #155

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I miss the non-commercial web of old. It's got into the point where I think my ultimate search engine is one that ranks pages by fewest ads. And I get that people make a living by putting advertising on their pages. I'm not really against that. (Though I don't do that myself for my own reasons, I wouldn't presume to tell other people what to do with their websites.) But it's been abused to the point where number of a…

Teclis has a neat approach to this: > we count the number of uBlock Origin blocked requests on the page, and if too many, we kick it out, leaving only "clean" pages in the index.

Wow, that's great!

My blog uses a 3rd party comment system that does it's own tracking, I'm sure.

This makes me want to ditch that to keep it clean.

Re: Who is going to replace Google for us?

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Time to get back to curated lists of interesting websites.

www.readsomethinginteresting.com / www.thinking-about-things.com are both pretty good aggregators.

www.stumbleupon.com was a thing I liked back in the web 1.0 days - impressed to see it is still going.

Re: Who is going to replace Google for us?

#189
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So, don’t worry, it all work out? Vast wealth being sucked up by a few people while huge swaths of society have little to no ability to handle a $1000 financial hit? Passing the big ball of wealth between a few select people and families over history is acceptable? The fallacy is in thinking that society will always be benevolent and never needs to be corrected or reconsidered.

This way of looking at things assumes that wealth is a finite resource, and that by some people having a lot it is depriving others. Wealth doesn't work like that, though. It's not a zero sum game. Wealth is infinite, and can be created from nothing by providing a good or service that people need. I had a friend who was a multimillionaire, got there by building stone walls. Another friend who's an immigrant, worth ov…

> I had a friend who was a multimillionaire, got there by building stone walls.

Your friend did not make that much money building stone walls. Your friend made that money acting as a middleman hiring teams of low paid workers (likely undocumented migrants) to build the stone walls while he received a handsome cut for little effort.

> Another friend who's an immigrant, worth over ten million, got there by making custom iron and steel windows and doors.

Not sure why you mention them being an immigrant. Are immigrants less capable than non-immigrants? Anyway, same rule applies. Your friend did not do this work; they hired people (most likely undocumented immigrants) and paid them under the table. They simply act as a middleman too, extracting the vast majority of the wealth while paying peanuts to the workers.

I bet both of your friends got government loans to go to college and took advantage of the free government CARE loans and possibly even received huge tax breaks for his/her business; virtually all of this government money is unavailable to his workers.

Re: Who is going to replace Google for us?

#190
post #75

Do people miss the Google of old, or the Web of old? The Web used to be very information dense. It was built from the ground up by specialists and enthusiasts, educational and governmental institutions, and groups of like-minded individuals. Then it became commercialized and commodified. Entire industries popped up to shovel mass-produced crap to masses of people through Amazon, Google, Facebook, etc. Forums became s…

It was a bit before my time, but peak usenet and mailing lists of the era looked awesome. The breadth and depth of the people who would participate in discussions (specifically in my field, e.g., comp.arch and the like) was quite amazing. Luminaries in the fields of computer CPUs, networking, programming, operating systems, etc. From academics to professionals to students and hobbyists.

That still goes on, but the gold seems harder to find, the signal to noise ratio lower. Might be just nostalgia.

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