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Re: V Language Review

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It would be very nice if you could do the same thing for Nim.

Nim and Zig are both pretty interesting to me as up-and-coming languages so I do have them on a short list of things to try. This post took about a month of effort in my spare time to write so I don't think I will get to those anytime soon.

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Re: V Language Review

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> Variables aren’t immutable in any significant way because you can trivially turn an immutable reference into a mutable one. To be fair, they didn't claim that the values were immutable, only the variables. Isn't the example in the article basically the same as Java's final variables, i.e. immutable references to mutable values? > No global variables [...] Evaluation: V does not prevent you from creating and mutatin…

It's just a one line bug in the checker, which can be reported via github, but it wouldn't be as dramatic.

Re: V Language Review

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Hate mail is fairly typical in these circumstances. So is people asking for evidence. The possible next stages are also predictable: 1. They don't post it, and get accused of lying. 2. They post one of the tamer examples, and get accused of overreacting to nothing. 3. They post a median example, and get told that people reacting with vigour is normal and it's not about them. 4. They post a very strong example, hurtin…

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Not from you, from the V community.

Re: V Language Review

#184
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What do you mean "falsely accusing"? Looks like Xe's blog was correct, V was vaporware back than. According to this post, it still kinda is.. At least the most interesting parts like unique memory management is 100% vaporware.

It wasn't vaporware back then, it isn't now. Here's a 1.5 year old demo of V's autofree working: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmB8ea8uLsM

Your demo includes code that uses manual memory management because of autofree bugs.

https://github.com/vlang/ved/blob/9b85e6291c9fe9135db1e300de...

Re: V Language Review

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Very well, be sure to ask in the IM channels when you need guidance and good luck.

I started here: https://github.com/svanderbleek/x-language-review/blob/main/... What do you mean IM channels?

Nice, Matrix Discord, IRC and others.

Re: V Language Review

#186
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Name, at least that's my interpretation from looking at her Contact Me page: > Copyright 2012-2022 Xe Iaso (Christine Dodrill). https://xeiaso.net/contact [correction] on their GitHub page I see: Please call me (order of preference): Xe/xer, They/them or She/her please. [edit] obscure to have your pronoun also be your name (or maybe your title?). Or maybe it is all just satire, given: "I am an ordained minister with…

To be honest having a person's name be the same as their nominative case pronoun is kind of cool from a whole different perspective than you normally get to see. By doing this experiment I get to see how bad of an idea it is to do that. So far the xe/xer pronouns don't seem to stick as well, but it looks cool so I'm gonna keep up the experiment. I'm also quite seriously an ordained minister.

> To be honest having a person's name be the same as their nominative case pronoun is kind of cool

The whole point of a person's name is to sufficiently differentiate them from the other persons. Using pronoun as name (or vice versa) just totally negates this goal.

Re: V Language Review

#188
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Good news: I'm never going to write about V again: https://xeiaso.net/blog/against-toxicity-programming-languag...

Implying here that any post about V is necessarily going to be toxic, because there aren’t any nice things to be said about it?

Any post criticising V is seen as toxic by their supporters, apparently. You can see many examples of this in this thread.

Re: V Language Review

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Really? I didn't catch that vibe at all. You're saying if you do this without involving the community it is trolling? I guess it is fair to run the article by the community somehow, but I'm not sure the best approach to that. I'm doing a similar thing for Nim so I would like to not be seen as trolling.

They call names to anybody who dares to ask a genuine question they don't like. It's a meme by now, how easy it is to get banned on V's discord server.

I've a feeling that author tried to bring these issues on their discord server, got himself banned and then decided to write a blog.

Re: V Language Review

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Even when they are known to be scammers and frauds? V's author is paying others to write things in V (even when basic functionalities don't work as advertised). They don't want to improve the language, they want to create a showcase to attract more funding, that's about it.

This is a complete lie.

Like what is lie? I was offered money to develop something in WASM using V, so that they could add it to their "awesome-v" list.

Aren't you the part of the core team who bans anyone on discord who asks questions about V's memory management?

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