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Re: The new and upgraded Framework Laptop

#181

Why oh why does every decent laptop have a 1080p screen? Apparently, if I want something other than 1080p I either buy a MacBook and pay the Apple Tax, or I buy something overpriced and often terrible in every other way?

Because Linux's support for HiDPI (specifically, fractional scaling) is limited.

Re: The new and upgraded Framework Laptop

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I'm happy to answer any questions around this! We've been working on this since update since we launched the product last year, so we're excited to be able to share it today.

Does the laptop support proper S3 sleep, or is this impossible with modern Intel CPUs?

S3 was technically not supported in 11th Gen Intel Core, but seemed to mostly work anyway. S3 is also not technically supported in 12th Gen Intel Core, and it seems to mostly not work at the moment, and it is unclear if that will change. However, s0ix continues to improve substantially in recent kernels, to the point where there doesn't seem to be a major standby battery life advantage to s3 anymore (on 11th Gen).

Re: The new and upgraded Framework Laptop

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The ethernet expansion card looks good.

This was by far our most popular Expansion Card request. We've actually been working on it since before launching the original Framework Laptop. It's just a non-trivial packaging challenge, especially to land 2.5Gbit support.

> non-trivial… especially 2.5Gbit

Elsewhere in this thread:

nrp: “Unfortunately, Realtek is the one and only choice for a USB 3.1 to 2.5Gbit Ethernet controller. We don't like it any more than you do, but there are several niches in the PC peripheral space where there is no alternative to using a Realtek part.“

Re: The new and upgraded Framework Laptop

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When you say able to, do you mean a vendor is holding you back from releasing more? No problem if you can't answer. Sorry my question was for this new laptop, I did see you guys released the one for the previous one which is awesome.

It's likely that the schematics cannot be copyrighted, which means once they are released anyone can spin up their own boards. You could probably see a flood of cheap Chinese motherboards or entire laptop knock offs.

If that were the case we'd see macbook motherboards, since Louis is able to get entire board schematics.

Re: The new and upgraded Framework Laptop

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I recently received my first framework laptop after being a loyal Thinkpad user for years. I am loving it so far. I run Ubuntu 22.04 daily and have not had any issues with battery life or the lid (but I do typically leave it plugged in during lunch and overnight). The expansion cards are brilliant and the keyboard is comparable to my old t-series. The aspect ratio is great for coding and I'm happy to see upgradeabili…

I recently received my first framework laptop after being a loyal Thinkpad user for years. I get excited about different laptops occasionally...and then I remember that I won't have a trackpoint if I switch to a different brand, and I get disappointed. Literally happens every few months.

Yep, the trackpoint (and buttons on top of the touchpad) are huge. I am a heavy vim user so those were extremely convenient but I have been trying to get comfortable with tap to click because that seems to be the way laptop manufacturers have headed (and I don't want my efficiency to suddenly collapse when I am put behind any other brand of computer). I am also still holding out some small hope that someone will come up with a way to swap it in to a framework laptop but I'm not holding my breath.

Re: The new and upgraded Framework Laptop

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately, Realtek is the one and only choice for a USB 3.1 to 2.5Gbit Ethernet controller. We don't like it any more than you do, but there are several niches in the PC peripheral space where there is no alternative to using a Realtek part.

How about Aquantia?

As far as we can tell, Marvell end of lifed the USB to Ethernet solutions. If anyone from Marvell can tell us otherwise, we'd like to know!

Re: The new and upgraded Framework Laptop

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Why is AMD so important to you? Are there any instruction set extensions these days that are only available on AMD? I can only think of things that are the other way around - only on Intel. And if you need something niche like some SIMD extension I guess you're running a server not a laptop?

Better power handling per performance ratio, at least when compared to previous Intel generations. Better integrated graphics, especially with the upcoming line, if what AMD says holds true. Non-toxic approach to business. Dr. Lisa Su has done incredible things with that company, and I'll happily support a group that recognizes the need for experience in top tech positions vs. MBAs/Lawyers/Fund Managers/etc...

Yep, the 6000 series has RDNA2 graphics.

Re: The new and upgraded Framework Laptop

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I'm happy to answer any questions around this! We've been working on this since update since we launched the product last year, so we're excited to be able to share it today.

Will it be possible to get a keyboard like the Thinkpad. FULL SIZE arrow keys. Menu button next to Right ALT. And PGUP PGDN adjacent to the arrows ?

Trackpoint is a bonus

Re: The new and upgraded Framework Laptop

#189

Why oh why does every decent laptop have a 1080p screen? Apparently, if I want something other than 1080p I either buy a MacBook and pay the Apple Tax, or I buy something overpriced and often terrible in every other way?

This laptop has a 2256x1504 screen. The webcam is 1080p.

Re: The new and upgraded Framework Laptop

#190

Why oh why does every decent laptop have a 1080p screen? Apparently, if I want something other than 1080p I either buy a MacBook and pay the Apple Tax, or I buy something overpriced and often terrible in every other way?

The Framework Laptop's display is 2256x1504.
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