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Re: Indian lawmaker arrested after tweet criticising Narendra Modi

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Post by webartisan » Sat, Apr 23, 2022, 4:25 AM UTC

actuator wrote: post #90

imdhmd wrote: post #81

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I seriously don't want to engage with whataboutry, but I'm going to reply to you with the tiniest hope that you might be willing to listen to reason. So first, i agree with you that power structures have always taken advantage of their position to shutdown their opposition. The reason that this has become significant enough in India for someone to take note and take action, is because of the blatant and frequent appl…

> engage with whataboutry, If you really want to discuss with civility, don't start with an accusation. I agreed with the commenter that there is definitely political motive to these demolitions and it is definitely not right to not follow procedure even if these are illegal. My point is against this belief that this is something recent. It has been always like this, no matter who is in power. It might have increased…

Why would you compare violence from 1980's to 2020? You realise thats a gap of 40 years?

It's almost as if you're trying to find a previous period with same communalism rates going back as far as you need to to prove point.

In terms of trends in the 20th century, there's been a clear noticeable jump after the current government came in, which is what should matter.

Re: Indian lawmaker arrested after tweet criticising Narendra Modi

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Post by naruvimama » Sat, Apr 23, 2022, 5:22 AM UTC

mayankkaizen wrote: post #180

muzaffarpur wrote: post #169

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Question is, if Modi is culprit, why he is not in jail. Congress was in power for atleast 5 years or so, post Godhara. That's how the country is. There is no rule of law and for sure there was never rule of law for politicians). If you have lived in India, you would know there is no difference in Modi or Congress or anyone else. Politicians are gangsters. Modi has done what congress did early. Congress consolidated M…

Fundamentally they are same but their depth of crimes aren't same. Congress did appease minorities but it never was like 'let us kill all muslims'. Fundamentally and ideologically, congress is neither anti hindu or anti muslim. However BJP/RSS has always been ideologically against muslims. It is in their blood. It is the party of religious bigots. If you read the history of RSS, you'll find RSS was established not to…

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Re: Indian lawmaker arrested after tweet criticising Narendra Modi

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Post by naruvimama » Sat, Apr 23, 2022, 5:26 AM UTC

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #154

naruvimama wrote: post #128

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But US and Europe has increased it's purchase by 8 and 15 percent respectively

> US and Europe has increased it's purchase by 8 and 15 percent respectively The U.S. has increased its purchase of Russian oil? That’s odd given we banned it…

https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202204/1257500.shtml

Re: Indian lawmaker arrested after tweet criticising Narendra Modi

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Post by morekozhambu » Sat, Apr 23, 2022, 6:01 AM UTC

noarchy wrote: post #8

koshergweilo wrote: post #3

I admit I'm not super familiar with India's freedom of speech, is this a backslide or has it always been like this?

If we start to get a lot of comments here, pay attention. You'll likely see confirmation of recent trends in India. I suspect we're already seeing that, even with the few comments that have been posted so far.

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Re: Indian lawmaker arrested after tweet criticising Narendra Modi

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Post by JumpCrisscross » Sat, Apr 23, 2022, 6:38 AM UTC

naruvimama wrote: post #183

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #154

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> US and Europe has increased it's purchase by 8 and 15 percent respectively The U.S. has increased its purchase of Russian oil? That’s odd given we banned it…

https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202204/1257500.shtml

Oh my. Chinese source citing a “Russian Security Council Deputy Secretary” who “told Russian media” a thing. Incompetent trolls might press your claim better.

(For bystanders, the claim is crap [1].)

[1] https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/9/us-bans-russian-oil-...

Re: Indian lawmaker arrested after tweet criticising Narendra Modi

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Post by JumpCrisscross » Sat, Apr 23, 2022, 6:42 AM UTC

naruvimama wrote: post #182

mayankkaizen wrote: post #180

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Fundamentally they are same but their depth of crimes aren't same. Congress did appease minorities but it never was like 'let us kill all muslims'. Fundamentally and ideologically, congress is neither anti hindu or anti muslim. However BJP/RSS has always been ideologically against muslims. It is in their blood. It is the party of religious bigots. If you read the history of RSS, you'll find RSS was established not to…

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> You definitely sound like someone who should have moved to Pakistan

What is this nonsense. Keep it off HN.

Re: Indian lawmaker arrested after tweet criticising Narendra Modi

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Post by whatevertrevor » Sat, Apr 23, 2022, 6:46 AM UTC

naruvimama wrote: post #183

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #154

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> US and Europe has increased it's purchase by 8 and 15 percent respectively The U.S. has increased its purchase of Russian oil? That’s odd given we banned it…

https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202204/1257500.shtml

> The Global Times (simplified Chinese: 环球时报; traditional Chinese: 環球時報; pinyin: Huánqiú Shíbào) is a daily tabloid newspaper under the auspices of the Chinese Communist Party's flagship newspaper, the People's Daily, commenting on international issues from a nationalistic perspective.[1][2][3][4] The publication has been labelled as "China's Fox News" by some scholars and writers for its propagandistic slant and the monetization of nationalism.

When the Wikipedia entry for your source starts with that, you might want to check the credibility of it before treating it as gospel.

Re: Indian lawmaker arrested after tweet criticising Narendra Modi

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Post by [deleted] » Sat, Apr 23, 2022, 7:24 AM UTC

stjohnswarts wrote: post #176

vkou wrote: post #93

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Why do you assume a democracy can't censor? All that a democracy is is a form of government where people elect some part of the legislature and the executive. If the electorate wants censorship, then the electorate will get censorship. If the electorate doesn't care much either way about censorship, but the people they elect do, then they will get censorship.

Also pure democracies don't really exist. for example the US is a democratic republic and the bill of rights has (until recently) stopped a lot of companies, people, and state governments from running over the rights of an individual to speak their mind (or religion or whatever) without fearing reprisal from the government. I'm afraid with the far right SCOTUS that we have currently though those individual rights are…

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Re: Indian lawmaker arrested after tweet criticising Narendra Modi

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Post by sanmon3186 » Sat, Apr 23, 2022, 10:32 AM UTC

vijaybritto wrote: post #162

joemazerino wrote: post #147

Modi is an oppressive ruler who was originally jailed for beating a cow farmer in broad daylight. I'm glad The Guardian is finally paying attention to oppression outside of the Western sphere.

The genocide of Indian Muslims has begun. The economic cornering process has begun already and there are large scale riots incited by armed extremists who go for processions in Muslim communities and play loud music which have abusive lyrics towards Muslims. They are dancing with weapons in their hands. This is extremely common now and is a daily occurrence. There will be lots of deaths and even larger scale violence…

While I understand the emotion but anyone who believes that 200 million Muslims in a country are a target for genocide, is being unfair. Situation isn’t as straightforward.

Re: Indian lawmaker arrested after tweet criticising Narendra Modi

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Post by selfhoster69 » Sat, Apr 23, 2022, 10:45 AM UTC

Every day, I'm ashamed of the Modi government that has been elected twice.

Very recently, his party also won a key constituency, headed by a monk that has failed to condemn the astonishingly high number of females rapes.

If Modi were to stand for election today, he would probably win again. The majority of the people in India seem to be very fond of nationalism and its seemingly quiet transition to fascism. It's very disturbing to say the least.