Also, you can run Android on PinePhone through Waydroid (Android in a Linux container). My dream would be a phone that has Android on the handset but I can plug it into a USBC dock with connected displays, keyboard, mouse and a Linux desktop environment would be displayed on the external displays.
The case for LineageOS and the PinePhone
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Re: The case for LineageOS and the PinePhone
#182Why LineageOS and not GrapheneOS? I have a Pixel 4a with GrapheneOS and really like it. The lack of Firebase Cloud Messaging (Google's push notifications service) isn't an issue for personal usage; for work I still use an iPhone because I don't want to put things like MS Teams on Graphene OS. As for PinePhone: it's interesting that this article puts LineageOS and PinePhone together since the latter cannot run the for…
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#184There are repairable and upgradeable phones (Google search for fairphone). If people really cared about this stuff companies like fairphone would be dominating the market now. But people don't buy those phones because they don't agree that "smartphones are shit". They would rather have cheaper less upgradeable less repairable phones. Not sure that's a problem which Pinephone are solving?
Re: The case for LineageOS and the PinePhone
#185> Don't smartphones... kind of suck? How many times have you had to replace a phone in the past 10 years? Do you have a drawer of random crap with a growing pile of phones? I simply cannot relate with this hook. > Don't smartphones... kind of suck? No, smartphones are kinda magical. They take better snapshots than my first DSLR, they play games at higher fidelity than my first gaming PC, and they’re general purpose c…
You completely lost me at "they're general purpose computing devices." This is not even remotely a reasonable definition of today's smartphones.
Re: The case for LineageOS and the PinePhone
#186Just be careful depending on LineageOS too much. I bought a 1.5-year-old officially supported device (OnePlus Nord), only to have support for it stop 2 months later.
Re: The case for LineageOS and the PinePhone
#187Earlier quoted context omitted.
The thing that annoys me about GrapheneOS is that it is not possible to install a sudo binary or to root the phone. I get that this is a Good Thing from a security perspective, but I don't like the fact that I can't install AdAway for resource-less adblocking with an edited hosts file, the ability to SSH into my phone with a certificate, or the ability to make good "nandroid" backups. I also philosophically like the…
There's also ProtonAOSP, which allows you to choose between no Google services, microG, sandboxed Google Play Services, and bundled Google Play Services: https://protonaosp.org/gapps ProtonAOSP works with root, and the documentation explains how to use it with Magisk: https://protonaosp.org/root ProtonAOSP also passes SafetyNet by default, as of right now. The developer of ProtonAOSP (kdrag0n) is also the GrapheneOS…
Re: The case for LineageOS and the PinePhone
#188Earlier quoted context omitted.
I actually don't share your experience. My Linux machines are all more reliable than the best smartphones I've had. Flagship Android phones have been the worst in my experience, most can't make it a week without crashing, not to mention the awful battery life. Maybe it's because I know to be picky about PC hardware and don't run things like Chrome. >I don't want a browser that's described as just "usable". I have to…
I've been daily-drivering on Linux for Desktop and Laptop for months and Linux across 4 different distros has made me feel more helpless than Windows ever did. Sure, the Windows "police" would come in and straighten my update settings (which is ultimately why I abandoned Windows), but Linux you get the helplessness of sometimes having something break and the only answer you can find after spending half of your weeken…
Re: The case for LineageOS and the PinePhone
#189I used lineage for a couple of years. In practice, you need to install a google play middleware to get certain apps you need, Eg, the password manager or authenticator you need for work. After installing these, I wonder if the lack of sandboxing means my phone is basically owned. Facebook famously spied on / hacked jailbroken years ago for example. Does lineage in that case really provide better privacy? Honestly cur…
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#190Earlier quoted context omitted.
As someone who had a few pre-smartphone PDAs: Smartphones absolutely are high powered shit. On paper they're amazing but the ecosystem limits you to scrolling instagram and only a handfull of accepted IMs (iOS struggles with XMPP and IRC for example, something even my hacked DS could do fine with 4MB of ram and a 60Mhz ARM9.) Just editing fucking textfiles and copying it back to a normal PC (that isn't a mac) is a re…
I can do everything you said isn't possible without even modifying anything on my smartphone. Also, comparing PDAs to modern smartphone is just... inaccurate at best. PDAs were essentially devices that were looking for a purpose, with limited uses. And even for those uses they were very mediocre.
No, it's not. Pinephone and Librem 5 can run practically any desktop software just fine and still serve as smartphones well. They're both smartphones and PDAs.