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This has happened with Pranayama before, when it was appropriated and rebranded as 'cardiac coherence breathing' [1] and 'diaphragmatic breathing' [2]. [1] https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/30/health/india-pranayama-yoga-c... [2] https://www.health.harvard.edu/healthbeat/learning-diaphragm...
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It doesn't matter one iota if someone claims it as their own, what matters is the benefit it brings. Do you think Patanjali (or whomever) would be protective of their techniques and trademark it, patent it, and extract wealth for it? If they don't care then neither should anyone else, and perhaps this will help the techniques spread further, which I'm sure Patanjali et al again, would not be against.
Someone posted this link, so I am just repeating it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdCmB8Tnvmw. This is an hour long video focusing on different kinds of breathing as part of yoga. Do look at the top comment (as of now) as it provides time-links to 12 different kinds of breathing - bhastrika, kapal bhati, bahya pranayama, agnisaar kriya, anuloma viloma, bhramari, udgeeth, ujjai, shitali, sikkari.
If someone develops 3 of the practices on their own, sure, they can describe only what they know. But if they sourced (and productized) 3 of them from a known source, they should refer to the main source, no? Kinda like open source - use but credit.
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When recovering after exercise, the body does something called overcompensating. It doesn't just repair the damage done but actually strengthens the area. Muscles undergo hypertrophy and bone becomes more dense. So when you challenge the body physically a moderate amount, something called functional overreaching, your body responds by actually strengthening itself. Obviously inanimate objects don't have this system s…
To go one "Why?" deeper. The reason that our bodies do this, as opposed to making all muscles strong all the time, is to avoid wasting energy on muscles you aren't using. It is basically using what muscles were used recently as a heuristic for which muscles need to be strong to ensure survival.
Just for context, I posted this study since I was intrigued by this[0] recent HN comment about an anecdotal apnea training effect on weight and then came across this study. I'm using the Apnea Trainer app on iOS, but too early to say how it affects my weight. I'm going to get a PowerBreathe device[1] as used here, since I am also dealing with hypertension. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30617118#30624918 [1…
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Rather than post this completely useless comment, why don't you actually contribute by posting why you think this study should be ignored? I think many people in this comment section know from personal experience that breathing is a powerful tool for stress management so this result is intuitive to them.
breathing is a powerful tool for stress management As is the occasional recreational drug of choice. Heck, a glass of milk before bed can do be a powerful tool for stress management. Same for going to a salon and having someone else wash your hair. Even when it seems to work for you , you should still be sceptical when you find this stuff in a paper - especially when it is a small study. Especially with stress relief…
So? What does that say about this technique? I can't see the logic.
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Not a professional, but the way I reason it is that pushing your heart to the limit causes it to grow stronger, and that additional capacity means it doesn't have to work as hard during the rest of the day. You basically bring down your average heart rate by making your heart stronger.
That makes sense, but then why is it considered bad for drugs to raise your heart rate?
Exercise raising the heart rate is a consequence, that (the increased heart rate) is not the singular magic thing improving your health. With exercise there's a positive, body-comprehensive event going on.
Exercise strengthens the heart.
Cocaine (for example) damages the heart. It doesn't just elevate the heart rate, it does some vicious things to the heart, causing damage:
https://www.webmd.com/connect-to-care/addiction-treatment-re...
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Not a professional, but the way I reason it is that pushing your heart to the limit causes it to grow stronger, and that additional capacity means it doesn't have to work as hard during the rest of the day. You basically bring down your average heart rate by making your heart stronger.
That makes sense, but then why is it considered bad for drugs to raise your heart rate?
Cocaine on the other hand seems to raise your resting heart rate because it damages your cardiovascular system [1]. Your heart has to work more to achieve the same result, the opposite from what you want to achieve with exercise.
1: https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal...
After reading Wim Hof and James Nestor a couple years ago during the pandemic, I used their techniques in full while battling long Covid. I had a blood pressure monitor and pulse oximeter on my bedside table that I would experiment with doing these various techniques and seeing my heart rate go down, my blood pressure go down, my anxiety would disappear, lung/chest inflammation would settle, and even oxygen levels in…
You say “their technique” and “this new tool”. For someone who hasn’t read Hof and Nestor, could you point to any resources explaining the specific techniques you are referring to? If I go down the Google/YT rabbit hole, I fear I’ll be confronted with hundreds of such techniques and just get utterly confused. Thank you.
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Well, maybe. As in: sure, a lot of breathing techniques and sometimes even useful natural remedies are some of the oldest recorded ones if they are coming from "the east", but in the end that corpus of wisdom is mostly a spaghetti mess of helpful and harmful techniques that is really hard to disentangle from cultism, oogie-boogie and autocratic belief systems. There's no shortage of stupidity in eastern "wisdom": htt…
You cite an NYT article "How Yoga Can Wreck Your Body". That is like citing an article "How You Can Hurt Yourself With A Kitchen Knife" to argue how the culinary arts are dangerous gobbledygook. Yes, these practices can hurt you if you don't do them properly. And there is nothing wrong with performing or following original research, as long as you credit the work upon which you build.
Does it mean that there's nothing of interest? No. There are some remedies based on Traditional Chinese Medecine that have proven to be beneficial. After all, this is how Artemisinin which is used as a cure for Malaria was discovered from a traditional herbal remedy from the 4th century. But, this is after trying multiple traditional remedies. Don't underestimate the value of curation when finding a working remedy from the multitude of non-working traditional cures.
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> TL;DR - doctors will kill you. Personal opinion only but I think that in 100 years we will look back on the standard prescription drugs of the current era with the same mixture of horror and fascination that we feel today when we look back on the medicine of the 19th century.
And it's pretty much guaranteed that some of the things we do regularly these days will be viewed as completely insane. My money is on sitting the whole day or commuting with the car.
> commuting with the car.