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Re: Dall-E 2

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Post by teaearlgraycold » Wed, Apr 06, 2022, 5:07 PM UTC

zackmorris wrote: post #161

Apologies for an open-ended question but: does anyone know if there is a term for something like Turing-completeness within AI, where a certain level of intelligence can simulate any other type of intelligence like our brains do? For example, using DeMorgan's theorem, we can build any logic circuit out of all NAND or NOR gates: https://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/boolean/demorgan.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N…

> does anyone know if there is a term for something like Turing-completeness within AI, where a certain level of intelligence can simulate any other type of intelligence like our brains do?

Artificial General Intelligence

Re: Dall-E 2

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Post by zitterbewegung » Wed, Apr 06, 2022, 5:08 PM UTC

I don’t want to dismiss this new model and achievements but we are getting to the point where I feel like what we saw in the open source versus close source systems we see in new ml models another one is forming for open and closed models. I think that larger and larger models will have disclaimers either restricting you from using it commercially (a great deal of academics and NVIDIA models are doing this. And OpenAI just puts it behind an API with the rules :

Curbing Misuse Our content policy does not allow users to generate violent, adult, or political content, among other categories. We won’t generate images if our filters identify text prompts and image uploads that may violate our policies. We also have automated and human monitoring systems to guard against misuse.

Re: Dall-E 2

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Post by aaron695 » Wed, Apr 06, 2022, 5:09 PM UTC

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Re: Dall-E 2

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Post by Isinlor » Wed, Apr 06, 2022, 5:11 PM UTC

nlh wrote: post #61

pingeroo wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean was he really wrong? As models like OpenAI Codex get more powerful over time, they will start eating into large chunks of dev work as well...

Large chunks, yes, but all that means is that engineers will move up the abstraction stack and become more efficient, not that engineers will be replaced. Bytecode -> Assembly -> C -> higher level languages -> AI-assisted higher-level languages

At some point we will be "replaced". When you get AI to be able to navigate all user interfaces, communicate with other agents, plan long term and execute short term, we will no longer be the main drivers of economical growth.

At some point AI will become as powerful as companies.

And then AI will be able to sustain positive feedback loop of creating more powerful company like ecosystems that will create even more powerful ecosystems. This process will be fundamentally limited by available power and the sun can provide a lot of power. Eventually AI will be able to support space economy and then the only limit will be the universe.

Re: Dall-E 2

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Post by throwaway675309 » Wed, Apr 06, 2022, 5:13 PM UTC

pingeroo wrote: post #14

fbanon wrote: post #10

A friend of mine was studying graphic design, but became disillusioned and decided to switch to frontend programming after he graduated. His thesis advisor said he should be cautious, because automation/AI will soon take the jobs of programmers, implying that graphic design is a safer bet in this regard. Looks like his advisor is a few years from being proven horribly wrong.

I mean was he really wrong? As models like OpenAI Codex get more powerful over time, they will start eating into large chunks of dev work as well...

I mean not really, even a layman non-artist can take a look at a generated picture from DALLE and determine if it meets some set of criteria from their clients.

But the reverse is not true, they won't be able to properly vet a piece of code generated by an AI since that will require technical expertise. (You could argue if the piece of code produced the requisite set of output that they would have some marginal level of confidence but they would never really know for sure without being able to understand the actual code)

Re: Dall-E 2

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Post by FreeHugs » Wed, Apr 06, 2022, 5:14 PM UTC

andybak wrote: post #5

Some freely available models GLID-3: https://colab.research.google.com/drive/1x4p2PokZ3XznBn35Q5B... and a new Latent Diffusion notebook: https://colab.research.google.com/github/multimodalart/laten... have both appeared recently and are getting remarkably close to the original Dall-E (maybe better as I can't test the real thing...) So - this was pretty good timing if OpenAI want to appear to be ahead of the pack. Of…

How do you run such a Google Colab thing?

I don't see a run button?

On.. maybe "Runtime -> Run All" from the menu ...

Shows me a spinning circle around "Download model" ...

26% ...

Fascinating, that Google offers you a computer in the cloud for free ..

Now it is running the model. Wow, I'm curious ..

Ha, it worked!

Nothing compared to the images in the Dall-E 2 article but still impressive.

Re: Dall-E 2

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Post by teaearlgraycold » Wed, Apr 06, 2022, 5:17 PM UTC

andybak wrote: post #3

Preventing Harmful Generations We’ve limited the ability for DALL·E 2 to generate violent, hate, or adult images. By removing the most explicit content from the training data, we minimized DALL·E 2’s exposure to these concepts. We also used advanced techniques to prevent photorealistic generations of real individuals’ faces, including those of public figures. "And we've also closed off a huge range of potentially int…

> I can't help but feel a lot of the safeguarding is more about preventing bad PR than anything

That's no hot take. It's literally the reason.

Re: Dall-E 2

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Post by 6gvONxR4sf7o » Wed, Apr 06, 2022, 5:17 PM UTC

This is a niche complaint, but I get frustrated at how imprecise open AI's papers are. When they describe the model architecture, it's never precise enough to reproduce exactly what they did. I mean, it pretty much never is in ML papers[0], but open AI's bigger products are worse than average with it. And it makes sense, since they're trying to be concise and still spend time on all the other important stuff besides methods, but it still frustrates me quite a bit.

[0] Which is why releasing your code is so beneficial.

Re: Dall-E 2

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Post by nullc » Wed, Apr 06, 2022, 5:20 PM UTC

educaysean wrote: post #80

fbanon wrote: post #10

A friend of mine was studying graphic design, but became disillusioned and decided to switch to frontend programming after he graduated. His thesis advisor said he should be cautious, because automation/AI will soon take the jobs of programmers, implying that graphic design is a safer bet in this regard. Looks like his advisor is a few years from being proven horribly wrong.

I have degrees and several years of experience in both fields, and I can tell you that both are creative professions where output is unbounded and the measure of success is subjective; these are the fields that will be safe for a while. IMO it's fields such as aircraft pilots who should be most worried.

Interesting. Right now these ML models seem like essentially ideal sources of "hotel art" particularly because it's so subjective... you only need a human (the buyer!) to just briefly filter some candidates, which they would have been doing with an artist in the loop in any case.

For things like aircraft pilots, it's both realtime-- which means 'reviewer' per output-- you haven't taken a highly trained pilot out of the loop, even if you relegated them to supervising the computer-- and life critical so merely "so/so" isn't good enough.

Re: Dall-E 2

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Post by throwaway675309 » Wed, Apr 06, 2022, 5:20 PM UTC

KevinGlass wrote: post #26

Something about this makes me nauseous. Perhaps is the fact that soon the market value for creatives is going to fall to a hair about zero for all but the most famous. We will be all the poorer for it when 95% of images you see are AI generated. There will be niches of course but in a few short years it'll be over for a huge swathe of creative professionals who are already struggling. Some of the images also hit me w…

Nonsense. This is merely a tool and helps lower the barrier of entry to be able to produce imagery.

By the same logic you should also complain about any number of IDEs, development tools, WordPress, game maker systems like RPG maker or Unity, after all if anyone can just leverage a free physics and collision system without having a complete understanding of rigid body Newtonian systems to roll their own engine it'll be too uniform.