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Re: Daily-driving a Mac, one year later

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Post by prmoustache » Thu, Mar 31, 2022, 9:44 AM UTC

technobabbler wrote: post #172

prmoustache wrote: post #119

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Adobe softwares can be replaced by other tools and their licensing these day make it something you don't want regardless of the platform it would run on. Office 365 works well enough on the web, calligra and libreoffice are compatible enough to make it a non issue. You can even upload and work on odf documents on office 365 these days. I like having 4k in the living room and I have a chromecast for that but I'd rathe…

I don't think it's fair to suggest that my use cases and priorities are less important than yours. Maybe LibreOffice and GIMP are enough for you. They are not for me, especially in professional contexts where 90% similarity isn't the same as actually compatible, especially when I collaborate with other users and designers. And I actually appreciate the Creative Cloud subscription pricing, which is great for occasiona…

Never said you should be forced to use Linux.

I was just mentionning that the days of patching and recompiling kernel and drivers to have a usable computer are long gone.

I am not sure why everybody always mention Gimp as the only photo editing tool that work on linux. There are many other tools in the graphic edition/illustration and video production, including some proprietary ones.

TBH, I have no idea how Ubuntu default desktop UI was a few years ago. I vaguely know they tried going with their own ideas with Unity, a desktop that was loosely based on gnome but without using gnome shell.

Tastes are not universal anyway and I don't understand how you can stand a windows desktop if you are fine with a mac laptop. When I was given back a new laptop with windows on it by my employer, I tried to get used to it and like it. The font rendering is terrible, the ergonomic is bad, the virtual workspace aren't as seamless and quick to use, the software installation process is shitty, even with linux inspired tools such as chocolatey, making containers and virtual machines work with the cisco vpn was a major PITA and involved having powershell scripts being triggered in scheduled tasks by log events to get anything working. I reinstalled Fedora and was up to speed in a few minutes.

As you said, to each their own.

Re: Daily-driving a Mac, one year later

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Post by somebehemoth » Sat, Apr 02, 2022, 3:18 PM UTC

vehemenz wrote: post #168

somebehemoth wrote: post #64

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> I don't see how anyone that can afford comparable PCs or UltraBooks would be priced out of Apple products. And if they can’t afford comparable PC’s, then Macs are not affordable. There are many affordable non-mac options.

The claim here is that people are priced out of Macs, not that they aren't more expensive. If a Mac is $2100 instead of $700, that's only a few hundred dollars more per year, or $20-30 a month. In the US, $20 or $30 is negligible to the frivolous expenses of the average household budget. In laptop-buying households, even more so. Let's not confuse misperception of value to affordability.

People literally are priced out of macs. Nothing you say changes that fact.

> About the final point—are Macs really "high cost"?

There are zero low cost macs, while other low cost computers are abundant.

> If a Mac is $2100 instead of $700, that's only a few hundred dollars more per year, or $20-30 a month.

Your concept of what “average people” can afford is very convenient for your argument because you made it up. To most people a product that is $1400 more expensive is considered much, much more expensive. The fact that you have to invent a payment plan to support your argument says a lot.

I like macs, they are nice. But they are high priced and expensive. They can be both worth the extra money while also being too high priced for a huge number of average people.

Re: Daily-driving a Mac, one year later

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Post by howinteresting » Sat, Apr 02, 2022, 5:06 PM UTC

awilfox wrote: post #89

smoldesu wrote: post #9

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Well, for starters, Planner is also a native application written in Vala/GTK. The only non-native part about it is that you're forced to run it as a Flatpak (which is a bummer), but that makes it just about equally as "native" as any sandboxed Mac app. Almost to a comedic extent, Planner does copy a lot of the touches that Things has. For example, dragging the plus icon in the corner to a folder will create a new tas…

Forced to run it as a Flatpak would have been a dealbreaker for me since Flatpak apps don't support Power and my main desktop was the libre Talos II. Looks like it is missing deadline support, otherwise you are right that it is almost a comedic clone of Things: https://github.com/alainm23/planner/issues/888

idk man, you're running Linux on an obscure architecture with miniscule market share and complaining about things not working.

Just build an x86_64 desktop like a normal person. You'll even be able to add storage to it as you need, something you can't do on macOS.