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Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup

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Re: Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup

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Post by idiotsecant »

OscarCunningham wrote: post #90
giobox wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> There is no excuse, especially thanks to Valve for their work enhancing wine ecosystem and making your games work. While Proton is great, it helps no one to suggest it's a solution to making all games work. There are absolutely enormous multiplayer titles still unavailable on Proton, if you can't play the games your friends play who cares if 99% of the rest of the Steam library works? Again, I think Proton is great…

They have promised they'll fix this for the Steam Deck, so there's a chance this will change in the next week.

Is steam deck supposed to release next week?

Re: Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup

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Post by dustinmoris »

Apple:

You can use Apple ID voluntarily to sync all your settings and data across macOS, iOS on iPhones, iOS on iPads, watchOS and Apple TV.

Microsoft:

We have no tablets, watches and not even a phone. You just have a PC and we force you to use a Microsoft account so you can sync all your data with our marketing and sales department and the government if need to be.

Re: Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup

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Post by itvision »

Underphil wrote: post #98
grishka wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://itvision.altervista.org/why.linux.is.not.ready.for.t...

Posting someone else's single opinion to back up your own is no less anecdotal than your original post. Whilst I'm not accusing you of this specifically, I have noticed a trend toward folks being so ingrained in the 'Windows way' that anything else is broken if it doesn't act the same. I was the same way for a long time. Started using Windows in 1994 and when I found Linux for myself, I just got angry that it wasn't…

So far "Linux works well for you and countless others" but almost all these people fall under the category of IT specialists or people with a high IQ.

There are many anecdotal stories how Windows doesn't work but considering a majority of organizations run Windows (and we are talking about literally hundreds of millions of users) just fine with little to no maintenance while Linux is nowhere to be seen, speaks volumes about the validity and the breadth of your statement. BTW, what's the decent alternatives for AD, GPO, CIFS and something as simple as MSTSC/RDP in Linux/GNU? Pretty much none? Just don't talk about LDAP, SSH, NFS and VNC. There are nowhere near in terms of features and simplicity. 99.9% of people on Earth won't be able to configure them let along install them. I could continue for hours about the things Linux distros are lacking.

When talking about tech and IT it is pertinent to look beyond one's nose. Linux works for me as well. How much time have I spent fixing its bugs and quirks? A hundred times more than reinstalling Windows.

How many issues have you helped solve in the Linux kernel? Zero? I'm over a dozen now. Some of them took literally tens of hours of painful debugging.

There's just one OS where Linux indeed works: Android. Only Android doesn't use the vanilla Linux kernel. Only Android runs on very specific devices. And the Android userspace has/uses zero GNU components.

"Linux works". LMAO.

Re: Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup

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Post by idiotsecant »

mdoms wrote: post #57
randomhodler84 wrote: post #2

Literally a trap to hand over your encryption keys. Never sign into an operating system with a cloud identity. You should have stopped using windows years ago. There is no excuse, especially thanks to Valve for their work enhancing wine ecosystem and making your games work.

Wake me up when I can play my sim racing games with wheel and pedal support in Linux.

What is your specific setup? It seems like that would be a pretty straightforward thing to do.

Re: Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup

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Post by NGRhodes »

john_moscow wrote: post #121

This makes me wonder. Google has been known for a while to ban accounts semi-randomly with very vague excuses and no recourse, so people would lose access to gmail and other services. Is Microsoft going to do the same? "Sorry, we spotted you voicing an opinion that doesn't align with our corporate interests, so we decided to lock you out of all your PCs".

Yes, there are reports of people having their accounts permanently deleted due to photographs on OneDrive they claimed breach terms and conditions.

Re: Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup

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Post by pritambaral »

fortran77 wrote: post #54

Why wouldn't you want your preferences to sync across your machines? I love the functionality.

Good for you. Use the functionality. But you don't need it to be shoved down other people's throats for that, do you?

Re: Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup

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Post by ryan29 »

randomhodler84 wrote: post #2

Literally a trap to hand over your encryption keys. Never sign into an operating system with a cloud identity. You should have stopped using windows years ago. There is no excuse, especially thanks to Valve for their work enhancing wine ecosystem and making your games work.

> Literally a trap to hand over your encryption keys.

I let my keys sync to my MS account. I mainly want to protect against untargeted theft of my computer, so having recovery keys online makes more sense than a recovery key printout or USB key in a drawer.

Re: Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup

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Post by idiotsecant »

fartcannon wrote: post #162

Linux never makes you do anything you don't want to do. That anyone uses anything else really surprises me.

People use windows because Windows does the things they need it to do, easily. The fact that that surprises you surprises me.

Re: Windows 11 Pro will soon require a Microsoft Account during initial setup

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Post by ryan29 »

ethbr0 wrote: post #65
Egoist wrote: post #51

“The changes will mirror the same requirements Microsoft originally added to Windows 11 Home last year, meaning you won’t be able to avoid Microsoft Accounts by creating a local user account during setup.” If I remember correctly, when you install Win11 Home, it forces you to login with a Microsoft account. But the easy workaround is to unplug the ethernet cable, windows will realize it can’t connect and the local ac…

My last round of Windows 11 installs, I just created a new MS account for the install, created a local admin user, and then deleted the MS account from the machine and built local accounts out normally. I'm sure, somewhere, there's a Microsoft VP whose "New MS accounts" KPI looks great...

I wonder how that affects activation.
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