App store bill sails out of Senate Judiciary Committee

Post by zepto » Thu, Feb 03, 2022, 10:44 PM UTC

Apocryphon wrote: post #175

zepto wrote: post #158

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Perhaps you can name one such great idea.

Comedy? https://techcrunch.com/2009/11/07/apple-has-no-sense-of-humo...

Post by riantogo » Thu, Feb 03, 2022, 10:52 PM UTC

RcouF1uZ4gsC wrote: post #14

As an Apple user, I kind of view the App Store as a kind of collective bargaining with app developers. If you want to have access to Apple Users you need to adhere to certain standards. The plaintiffs in the lawsuit against Apple are some of the scummiest companies and their software is full of dark patterns. Apple’s App Store does a lot to protect me. I guess I view this bill much as a union member might view a “Rig…

Post by Nbox9 » Thu, Feb 03, 2022, 11:53 PM UTC

clusterfish wrote: post #122

nerdjon wrote: post #69

As long as this does not cause an exodus from the App Store and I am forced to start paying for apps directly, I am fine with this. But a strong benefit to the App Store for me is being able to manage and cancel my subscriptions from a central place. No going through 5 screens, no being forced to call, no any of that crap. I can already see apps refusing to carry through the App Store so they can control more, and I…

Pretty much all Apple has to do to keep apps in App Store in the face of competition is drop their fees to less than 10% for all apps and drop bullshit like "you can't even link to your website if it lets users pay from there", and almost everyone except the most brazen will stay on App Store. We'll see what actually happens but I personally I doubt that Apple values user experience more than it values gouging develo…

Post by jliptzin » Thu, Feb 03, 2022, 11:58 PM UTC

sircastor wrote: post #129

jliptzin wrote: post #7

Surprised it took this long. If they would have taken a more reasonable 5-10% of developer earnings they’d still collect billions upon billions in rent while not angering millions of developers and lawmakers writing this legislation. Or at least charge a tiered annual publication fee plus payment processing fees. But greed got the best of them. Their fees are akin to a shopping mall owner taking 30% of store revenues…

If it were 20%, people would complain it wasn’t 10%. And If it were 10%, they’d complain it should be 5%. And there are plenty of other malls to move to, is just that your customers aren’t there. I really don’t get the complaint about Apple’s monopoly on iOS. To me, it’s like VW’s monopoly on Jettas.

Post by ahiknsr » Fri, Feb 04, 2022, 12:03 AM UTC

olliej wrote: post #181

flutas wrote: post #178

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> No, the value the store provides is the SDK. Just as Unity requires you to license IP Except Unity doesn't make the only device that Unity games can run on. Apple should be making their money from the phones, not seeing the phones as a utility to get even more licensing fees ($99/yr, 30% cut of all payments) from developers. But also doesn't the $99/yr charged to put apps on the store count as a license, making you…

Apple makes some on the sale of hardware, but does not charge end users for software updates after then. Unlike google it actually supports that hardware. The support costs money. You're right that unity wasn't a great example though. A better example would be the xbox, playstation, switch, etc. The alternative model is you sell out your users, like google does.