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Re: Signal users can give a recurring monthly contribution

#181

They should sell the ability of creating an account not attached to a phone number. Pay $5, get a code that allows creating a single account, enter the code somewhere in the app to allow using a user name in place of the phone. This limits spam and, as this code can also be sent to another person, there is a way to hide the relationship between payer and final user. No need for cryptocoins, NFTs, or other stupid thin…

You might be interested in the technical reasons for requiring a phone number to use Signal. Not sure if there have been any updates since this blog post. https://signal.org/blog/secure-value-recovery/ > One challenge has been that if we added support for something like usernames in Signal, those usernames wouldn’t get saved in your phone’s address book. Thus if you reinstalled Signal or got a new device, you would l…

Wait what? You specify a username and at least one user-chosen "challenge" in order to verify ownership of it -- phone number, email, password, TOTP, public key which is stored with Signal. Then when you register a new phone you verify the username exactly like you verify the phone number but with the user's challenge.

Like it's more effort, but not some intractable problem, at least stated like this.

Re: Signal users can give a recurring monthly contribution

#182
post #128

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Please continue to contribute to Wikipedia. It's one place in the internet I can go and not be bombarded with ads.

>Please continue to contribute to Wikipedia I disagree, but for a different reason: https://www.dailydot.com/debug/wikipedia-endownemnt-fundrais...

This was quite debunked last time - they do have reserves because in case something really bad happens (eg. people stop donating), they don’t want to go down instantly. I really don’t see how having a few years worth of reserves a bad thing - people really held open-source/non-profit companies to impossible standards.

Re: Signal users can give a recurring monthly contribution

#183

They should sell the ability of creating an account not attached to a phone number. Pay $5, get a code that allows creating a single account, enter the code somewhere in the app to allow using a user name in place of the phone. This limits spam and, as this code can also be sent to another person, there is a way to hide the relationship between payer and final user. No need for cryptocoins, NFTs, or other stupid thin…

Requiring a phone number is literally my only complaint about Signal, I used to just use a Google Voice number but then I learned about TextNow and have been migrating away from Google as much as possible https://www.textnow.com/how-it-works

I was able to use a US number from Twilio for that purpose. Interestingly, the Canadian numbers I tried didn't work.

Re: Signal users can give a recurring monthly contribution

#184
post #98
post #72

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What do you mean 'not fully released'? It's here: https://github.com/signalapp/Signal-Server

Is that the version that is actually deployed to their servers, though?

Isn't that impossible to prove for any OSS backend out there?

Re: Signal users can give a recurring monthly contribution

#185

They should sell the ability of creating an account not attached to a phone number. Pay $5, get a code that allows creating a single account, enter the code somewhere in the app to allow using a user name in place of the phone. This limits spam and, as this code can also be sent to another person, there is a way to hide the relationship between payer and final user. No need for cryptocoins, NFTs, or other stupid thin…

You might be interested in the technical reasons for requiring a phone number to use Signal. Not sure if there have been any updates since this blog post. https://signal.org/blog/secure-value-recovery/ > One challenge has been that if we added support for something like usernames in Signal, those usernames wouldn’t get saved in your phone’s address book. Thus if you reinstalled Signal or got a new device, you would l…

This can be solved with a backup that store the address book (but not in the cloud, please!). Signal for Android already have a safe and encrypted backup feature, I use it to keep my message history safe.

Not being forced to add a contact to the phone address book is an extra advantage, as address books are one of the first victims of spyware apps...

Also, with usernames and a desktop app, there is no reason to require a smartphone at all! Seriously, my Android phone is the least secure platform that I use at the moment (lots of proprietary stuff, spyware prone, ...)

Re: Signal users can give a recurring monthly contribution

#186
post #175

Reminder that Signal server source code is not fully released and the app is heavily dependent on google services to operate. Signal also takes measures against third party or unofficial apps. Whatever you say about privacy Signal is not an ally of user freedom.

I’m tired of all these text messaging silos. Email is ubiquitous because no one owns it. RCS can’t come fast enough.

I'll bite. What's RCS?

Re: Signal users can give a recurring monthly contribution

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post #182
post #128

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>Please continue to contribute to Wikipedia I disagree, but for a different reason: https://www.dailydot.com/debug/wikipedia-endownemnt-fundrais...

This was quite debunked last time - they do have reserves because in case something really bad happens (eg. people stop donating), they don’t want to go down instantly. I really don’t see how having a few years worth of reserves a bad thing - people really held open-source/non-profit companies to impossible standards.

>This was quite debunked last time

Debunked... how? Can you link to this "debunking"?

>they do have reserves because in case something really bad happens (eg. people stop donating), they don’t want to go down instantly. I really don’t see how having a few years worth of reserves a bad thing - people really held open-source/non-profit companies to impossible standards.

This was addressed in the article.

>The WMF’s financial independence is clearly not at any risk. So what is going on? The official answer is that the WMF thinks you can never have too much money put aside for a rainy day. The WMF also has high-flying, global plans to “become the essential infrastructure of the ecosystem of free knowledge” by 2030. It says it wants to create “knowledge equity”—a world where people everywhere will have as much access to information in their own language as a first-world citizen—and that this will require continuous budget increases. In all of these endeavors, it is aided by the discovery that it has a money tap in Wikipedia, built through the work of volunteers, that it can open whenever it pleases.

The article isn't just decrying wikimedia building a massive reserve, it's decrying them massively expanding their scope.

Re: Signal users can give a recurring monthly contribution

#188
post #98

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Is that the version that is actually deployed to their servers, though?

Is that possible for Signal to prove in a meaningful way?

Intel SGX? They are already using it for some portion of the server code.

Re: Signal users can give a recurring monthly contribution

#189
post #50

I'm happy to give my 5$/month, as I'm using Signal daily. When moving away from WhatsApp it seemed like the best option for me and my circle of friends. I can only hope that some of the money would be used to hire a developer to fix some of the issues I'm experiencing, some of which are quite annoying: - Signal killing the whole iPad and iPhone battery in a matter of hours while running in the background, on some day…

Add to the list the inability to effectively "mute" busy chats in a way where they don't continuously bubble up to the top. At least on Android, you can only pin 4 chats, I would really like to be able to pin as many as I want, effectively defining my own order of chats regardless of chronology.

Re: Signal users can give a recurring monthly contribution

#190
post #175

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I’m tired of all these text messaging silos. Email is ubiquitous because no one owns it. RCS can’t come fast enough.

I'll bite. What's RCS?

The “next-generation” text messaging standard to replace SMS/MMS. Higher quality images, read receipts, etc. I believe it also supports some form of encryption.
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