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Facebook loses users for the first time

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Re: Facebook loses users for the first time

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Post by wayoutthere »

jacobolus wrote: post #147
NaturalPhallacy wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

reddit used to be great until they pulled their great bait & switch, then added all kinds of authoritarian features. A brief history of reddit: > We want to democratize the traditional model by giving editorial control to the people who use the site, not those who run it. — Reddit FAQ 2005 > We've always benefited from a policy of not censoring content — u/kn0thing 2008 > A bastion of free speech on the World Wide We…

Circa 2005 reddit was a forum for nerdy young tech people, talking about miscellaneous web links but mostly focused around nerdy tech stuff. Nobody I know who read reddit circa 2005 wanted it to become a white supremacist hate forum. When it started to attract large numbers of white supremacists who deposited their steaming piles of bullshit (hate speech, vicious personal attacks) all over the site, lots of people re…

Huh? I typically associate Reddit with the far left, not the far right.

Re: Facebook loses users for the first time

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xyzzy123 wrote: post #153
NaturalPhallacy wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

reddit used to be great until they pulled their great bait & switch, then added all kinds of authoritarian features. A brief history of reddit: > We want to democratize the traditional model by giving editorial control to the people who use the site, not those who run it. — Reddit FAQ 2005 > We've always benefited from a policy of not censoring content — u/kn0thing 2008 > A bastion of free speech on the World Wide We…

It feels like reddit changed in line with the rest of the Internet though. In 2022 you have the choice of a) "suppressing free speech" or b) "platforming racists" and there is no middle ground and no way to win. You can't pass the buck to moderators. The choice did not feel so stark in 2005.

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Re: Facebook loses users for the first time

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Post by manquer »

tr33house wrote: post #89
Victerius wrote: post #4

> Daily active users dropped from 1.93 billion to 1.92 billion, with the drop coming from Africa and Latin America.

Isn't it suspicious that the losses conveniently happened in Africa and Latin America which contribute to a smallest share of their revenue

More likely FBs network effort is the weakest in those markets: less internet penetration, weaker brand loyalty, Fb is also relatively new in these markets, more competition from tiktok and others.

These markets likely to first have user attrition

Re: Facebook loses users for the first time

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Post by aierou »

elwell wrote: post #165
annadane wrote: post #46

Literally all Zuckerberg has to do is not be the kind of person he is... his product itself did achieve success in that a huge number of people are using it, but then he had to prove himself to have no ethical standards

Why does it seem like I'm the only one who doesn't hate Zuckerberg? I'm genuinely confused. Can someone please explain this to me? I want to understand better.

It's funny because Zuckerberg isn't even a public figure. I'm sure someone will make some ethical claim, but I've read all the articles and they are hardly conclusive. It's probably better to just wait for a regulatory decision, otherwise you're just going to be reading someone else's agenda.

Re: Facebook loses users for the first time

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Post by b112 »

GCA10 wrote: post #58

Peak coffee consumption (per capita/US): 1946 Peak cigarette consumption (per capita/US): 1963 Peak oil production (global): unknown, maybe 2020-2030 Peak Facebook: ?? That's an incomplete peer group, but I find it interesting that at some point, society does start to unplug from addictive substances. The tapering off is quite slow, though. Unclear whether heavy users cut back, or new generations just don't develop t…

But coffee has just been replaced by sugary soda drinks, laced with 4x the caffeine...

Re: Facebook loses users for the first time

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Post by UltraViolence »

monkeybutton wrote: post #2

Its already frustrating enough having to use Facebook just to look up a restaurant's information, the set times for a concert, or whatever about a local business or event. If all that stuff starts to disappear behind a meta-verse wall, I might just leap off the nearest bridge instead.

Given the efficacy of Facebook's targeted advertising this may be inevitable.

Some random website containing a restaurant's information simply isn't worth maintaining if all your customers use Facebook anyway.

Re: Facebook loses users for the first time

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Post by zepto »

bpodgursky wrote: post #64
annadane wrote: post #46

Literally all Zuckerberg has to do is not be the kind of person he is... his product itself did achieve success in that a huge number of people are using it, but then he had to prove himself to have no ethical standards

Literally all Zuckerberg has to do is be the same person who made him worth $80 billion.

He’s worth $80 billion for now.

Re: Facebook loses users for the first time

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Post by wayoutthere »

TechBro8615 wrote: post #150
NaturalPhallacy wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

reddit used to be great until they pulled their great bait & switch, then added all kinds of authoritarian features. A brief history of reddit: > We want to democratize the traditional model by giving editorial control to the people who use the site, not those who run it. — Reddit FAQ 2005 > We've always benefited from a policy of not censoring content — u/kn0thing 2008 > A bastion of free speech on the World Wide We…

Reddit should break off all political content into its own site, porn into another, and keep the rest in place. If a post is porn or political, mods can click a button to move it to the dedicated site. This would be similar to the “move topic” functionality from phpBB and vBulletin. This might solve a lot of problems, but it would create issues on the edge, like r/pics content that may not be overtly political but cl…

In the current polarized era, all discussion online is inherently political. The only way to escape it is in small groups with other people you have mutually agreed not to talk about it with.

This is the result of Citizens United; when elections are decided by who has the most money, it’s a zero-sum game until politics have consumed the totality of our lives.

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