The Casio employee behind the “Sleng Teng” riddim that revolutionized reggae

Post by School-Cotton » Wed, Feb 02, 2022, 7:51 AM UTC

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Founders being rewarded is completely orthogonal to culture, in this picture. Any knowledge or innovation could be “stolen” and used by someone else, whether its origin is cultural or not. Using the possibility of value extracting theft as a reason why (certain) people should never find inspiration in (certain other) cultures… is just bigoted and nonsensical. It’s racist territorialism. Especially when all culture is…

I disagree. There is a history of issues in the industry, and with audience exposure that makes things much more complex than with certain other genres. If reggae has been around this long yet Sting, UB40, Boy George, Snow, 311, Sublime, and Matisyahu are probably the people most Americans would think of as the best musicians making reggae music, it might show a bit of inherent cultural bias for both the industry and…

Post by vlatkokaplan » Wed, Feb 02, 2022, 8:21 AM UTC

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For people wondering "what's the sleng teng riddim?" here's some examples: Original "under mi sleng teng" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wjw7m-BKmQ8 One of my favorites, "The Don" by peter metro: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnZuTOH2zoc 90 minute sleng teng mix (here's a bunch): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwLKc61dVWQ related: Under mi sensi (doesn't actually use sleng teng riddim but it's a riff on the sleng…

Facebook recently used a version of this song in their first ad for the Meta rebrand: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2W9YVkkn9U "Way in my brain"

Post by pantulis » Wed, Feb 02, 2022, 8:46 AM UTC

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If you look into folk music traditions, one recurring theme you'll find is it's generally not clear who wrote a tune or lyrics, and multiple songs often use the same tune. That's the natural state of music, and the current system of so-called intellectual property is an aberration. We don't know who wrote "Rolling Down to Old Maui" or "Drunken Sailor," other than that they were popular in the 19th century. They both…

I think it was Pete Seeger who said that the greatest compliment he ever received was someone saying "Oh you wrote that song? I thought it was just.. there".

Post by hn_ta_234465 » Wed, Feb 02, 2022, 8:52 AM UTC

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> a friend of mine (who is not Native American) used to make those “dream catcher” wall hangings. > A few people told her why it was not cool. Were those people Native American?

I think it's not super relevant but: my understanding is that they were of partial Native American descent. Reason why I say it's not super relevant in this particular case? As a white person, it would be ridiculous for me to attempt to speak for Native Americans or any other group. But it would be perfectly OK for me to say e.g. "hey, I think a lot of Native Americans aren't cool with white people making 'dream catc…

Post by kuhewa » Wed, Feb 02, 2022, 9:06 AM UTC

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> Generally when people speak of "cultural appropriation" it's a situation where you have a majority and/or oppressing group capitalizing on the culture of a minority and/or oppressed group. I think the issue, as illustrated in replies to you, is that many people's only exposure to conversations about cultural appropriation are extreme examples brought to their attention by someone seeking to highlight how absurd the…

Do you have any examples?