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Alabama farmer sues John Deere for ‘right to repair’

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Re: Alabama farmer sues John Deere for ‘right to repair’

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post #95

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In most states (all?) this happens thru OBD II, so not a real test, with tons of exemptions depending on car weight/engine type/age. This https://www.wep-inc.com/inspection-maintenance-programs/texa... is hilarious. You arent testing car emissions, you are reading car computer self report. In EU, NZ/AU and probably many more places Tailpipe gas emissions test is routine. There are even mobile units with portable Emis…

I didn't say anything about testing. I've never heard of anyone doing emissions testing on tractors after it leaves the factory. I said that the EPA will get mad if someone changes the emissions. The EPA has already hinted that making it possible for random people to violate emissions by changes the software will be a bad thing. Not sure how this will turn out in court and laws, but it is a factor. When I press peopl…

This is precisely my point. Rest of the world tests, they test actual exhaust emissions, and there are regulations and penalties.

US on the other hand legislated computer DRM "for engines" because its cheaper/faster, anything beyond is a super special case. My favorite is actual tailpipe test commercial trucks must pass in NY - they test opacity of gas aka "is the smoke visible?" :o and look for physical presence of all mandated emission hardware for that model/year/exemption status. All of that theater instead of using proper exhaust gas analyzers.

>Parts and computer test equipment is readily available.

Can you download standalone John Deere service software? or did you mean signing up for their paid SAAS package?

Re: Alabama farmer sues John Deere for ‘right to repair’

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post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In most states (all?) this happens thru OBD II, so not a real test, with tons of exemptions depending on car weight/engine type/age. This https://www.wep-inc.com/inspection-maintenance-programs/texa... is hilarious. You arent testing car emissions, you are reading car computer self report. In EU, NZ/AU and probably many more places Tailpipe gas emissions test is routine. There are even mobile units with portable Emis…

They do for older cars.

Its the other way around. Older/weirder stuff is usually fully exempted.

Re: Alabama farmer sues John Deere for ‘right to repair’

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post #163

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You in no way responded to the content in my post. "free speech" and "free markets" are completely separate topics which may or may not be mutually exclusive, both of which are studied well academically. I make no claims on free speech. I simply provided a basic academic background to markets in microeconomics. Then you provide random sayings to try to discredit my post which have no logical connection to my content.…

You can argue as must as you want about the legitimacy of my comment. "Regulations" and "free market" are mutually exclusive.

Market is regulated by its very definition.

If it was completely unregulated, the person with the biggest gun would just take everything he wants.

It was always abut where to draw the line.

Re: Alabama farmer sues John Deere for ‘right to repair’

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Would "right to repair" also apply to software companies that lock up their customers' data in password-protected databases, which is only known to the company?

How would it? What have you purchased and what are you repairing?

I have software that creates a database in a special format, from the data I have entered. I cannot access the data from third-party tools to do custom reporting.
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