If this is turning into a Microsoft bashing thread I'll join in as well. I don't understand how text handling (highlighting, moving around etc.) works/feels different between Teams, Excel, Outlook, Word, the OS. They're all developed by the same company. Why do they integrate so messily?
Microsoft Teams: 1 feature, 4 vulnerabilities
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Re: Microsoft Teams: 1 feature, 4 vulnerabilities
#182I work with several large organisations, all using Teams. In every instance, the previous solution (Slack/Zoom/Discord) was replaced by Teams following higher management making the switch for reasons like "it's included in Office 365" or a new hire influencing the migration to Microsoft solutions. In every instance, the application was/is not well received by the employees - it's slow, buggy, crazy complicated and ge…
Anecdotally (as a counterpoint), we also went with teams, and it’s been… fine. There are bugs, but they’re mostly in the category of “irritating” rather than “massively disruptive”. It’s nice that teams is integrated with the rest of Microsoft’s 365 and outlook stuff, and service uptime has been good enough. From my POV, the differences vs Slack have been pretty minor (although I recognize that my experience isn’t un…
like not being able to delete a chat?
I had a chat with an outside org, and now it is forever in my Teams history, and I cannot get rid of it.
which has the potential to be pretty embarrassing (if the chat was not work-related) or a violation (if the chat was under i.e. an NDA and the relationship ended thus "you have to delete all notes etc").
I'm sure the creative can think of additional ways this could be awkward.
Re: Microsoft Teams: 1 feature, 4 vulnerabilities
#183Teams is sometimes comically bad... For instance, 4 people in a video chat, not an uncommon use case. The simples and most logical screen layout would be 1/4 of the screen each. No: one person gets 1/2 the screen, with a tall vertical slice. Two people get 1/4 of the screen, normal aspect ratio. And you get a tiny window in the top corner.
Re: Microsoft Teams: 1 feature, 4 vulnerabilities
#184MS Teams is the worst software I've ever used. This is not hyperbole. A room full of monkeys on a typewriter would never create something as bad as teams.
Second only to Azure dev oops. Next in line is Jira... why do corporations love this kind of software?
Re: Microsoft Teams: 1 feature, 4 vulnerabilities
#185Earlier quoted context omitted.
I fully agree. I literally never felt this much hate and contempt for software as I do when I'm forced to use Teams every day. It's an absolute shitshow of a chat. And when I thought it couldn't get worse, they f*ked up ctrl+a selecting all text on Windows... I work in MS ecosystem, some MS products are great, some are really bad, most are ok-ish, but Teams is on a whole another level of bad.
Then I presume you never had the misfortune of using Skype for Business? We used this prior to Teams, and in comparison, Teams is great. I'm guessing a lot of Teams users come from Skype for Business, so they are really happy with the improvements.
SfB only did the non-persistent chat and A/V calls portion of Teams and is really more like a VoIP PBX. SfB calls still have better audio quality than Teams today - I'm guessing they've optimized bandwidth down to meet a "2/5 star rating" ("technically intelligible").
Re: Microsoft Teams: 1 feature, 4 vulnerabilities
#186Earlier quoted context omitted.
> What's going on HN ? HN is an anti-MS echo chamber, so comments like this become popular quickly. It's been this way for a few years now.
HN is generally also critical of Alphabet, Meta and Amazon. And rightly so. We should be pointing out ethical issues, urging companies to improve. Especially the large and powerful ones. It's just Apple that somehow seems to gets a pass on some occasions.
Accusing MS of a coordinated PR smear campaign against Zoom, with zero evidence other then "it feels like it", is a far cry away from pointing out ethical issues.
Re: Microsoft Teams: 1 feature, 4 vulnerabilities
#187Earlier quoted context omitted.
And this is why MS is the king of enterprise.
Yeah I’ve always maintained that MS is an enterprise software company that cosplays a consumer software company from time to time. They don’t make a ton of money outside their enterprise software division; the rest of the company more or less breaks even.
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Re: Microsoft Teams: 1 feature, 4 vulnerabilities
#188In 2020 a rash of anti-zoom propaganda that I'm almost certain was driven by Microsoft led to a company-wide prohibition on using anything other than Teams "for security reasons" where i worked. This was, I am almost certain, inspired by Microsoft corporate sales getting their hooks into management. This was largely because of news stories like "end to end encryption doesnt really work as advertised" and "if you leav…
I worked at Cisco, and the same arguments were made to use only WebEx and associated apps.
Re: Microsoft Teams: 1 feature, 4 vulnerabilities
#189In 2020 a rash of anti-zoom propaganda that I'm almost certain was driven by Microsoft led to a company-wide prohibition on using anything other than Teams "for security reasons" where i worked. This was, I am almost certain, inspired by Microsoft corporate sales getting their hooks into management. This was largely because of news stories like "end to end encryption doesnt really work as advertised" and "if you leav…
Is this the propaganda you are talking about?
https://twitter.com/campuscodi/status/1473642105633488899
Re: Microsoft Teams: 1 feature, 4 vulnerabilities
#190Earlier quoted context omitted.
One day they just completely fucked the ability to paste code. It worked flawlessly before and then suddenly it removes indenting, bugs out and doesn't let you exit the preformatted code block. It's so bugged, it's like they didn't even test it. They couldn't have, one day it literally worked fine and the next it was unusable and could be replicated every single time. And why there isn't the ability to just delete th…
The latest Teams bug I've encountered is an inability to write a bulleted list with more than one bullet. Each newline splits the list into a new message. No combination of Shift/Ctrl/Alt + Enter worked. This changed, as in broke, around a week ago. At least for me, on Win 11. Edit: Just remembered another Teams bug from a few days ago: cut text from the middle of paragraph, paste it back in earlier in the same parag…
Yes. This is horrible. The horrible workaround is Ctl-Shift-X shortcut to bring up the more advanced editor that lets you selected bulleted lists.