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Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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United States v. Microsoft was 20 years ago. Is there nobody left at Microsoft who remembers that?

They remember the actual outcome. They lost the case but the Bush Administration chose to not really enforce any significant penalties. End result was very little cost to Microsoft. They did change their practices for awhile but have slowly crept back to the same lockin.

When Apple does similar things everyone praises them for it.

Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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I try to move to Linux desktop one or twice a year for the last, what, 20 years. I have Linux on all my servers, was an early (very minor) dev on pre-1 kernel and generally love it. The desktop is a walking nightmare. Something continuously does not work: multiple screens, waking up from sleep etc. I really would like to move (we use Outlook but I am even ready to go for OWA) but Windows is considerably better on lap…

Odd, I run Slackware-current, with Fluxbox. To suspend, I just run "xlock & loginctl suspend" from a script being called from a Fluxbox submenu. Dumb easy.

Good satire!

Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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Saw people say the same with XP into Vista. The relationship people seem to have with windows is like someone trapped in an abusive relationship. On the other hand from what I read, XP - good Vista - Bad 7 - good 8 - bad 10 - good 11 - bad I don't have any experience in any of those so I'm not how true it is, but if it is, I guess hope that 12 will be out by EOL of 10?

I've run all of them over the years (progressively upgrading like a good computer user). It's not even subtle. The good / bad dynamic is drastic. And each 'bad' always brings to it a horrible UI change. Vista brought the window manager and those weird transparent windows and was generally ugly and buggy. Win 7 cleaned up the UI and made it flatter and simpler. 8 brought a full-screen start menu (!!). 10 went back to…

Can you name what made the "good" releases good? Because when I look at the list, I can name bad things for every single "good" release that I disliked. Much of what makes a "good" release though, isn't that MS fixes anything from the "bad" release they just reskin a later service pack from the "bad" release and try not to break to many things. If you skip the "bad" releases it makes the "good" ones bad.

2000->XP, forced online activation, if you moved from ME->XP they finally broke a lot of dos era apps. That isn't to say that XP is that far from 2000 which IMHO remains the best windows MS ever released (particularly after SP3). The only significant thing of value MS has added since XP, is 64-bit support, and that is questionable if you consider there was a 64-bit XP.

vista->7, this one is harder, maybe the biggest ding is, that this is where they started to remove all the classic mode UI paradigms that were in place for 15+ years. So, while vista was such a mess that going from XP->7 was a shock, even on a PC 2x+ faster the UI still lags because much of the win32 graphics stack and sound system is now emulated on the processor rather than handed off to the graphics card driver.

Win8->win 10, even more ad's, forced updates, can't permanently disable the virus scanner that eats 50%+ of the disk IOP rate, the list here is endless.

In the case of 10-11, I don't think anyone would really have cared if they hadn't decided to screw with the start menu/task bar again. That is the one thing that raises the ire of windows users, yet they seem to always screw with it. I think secure boot/etc is less of an issue for people than it was 15 years ago (and IIRC someone already has a workaround).

Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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I try to move to Linux desktop one or twice a year for the last, what, 20 years. I have Linux on all my servers, was an early (very minor) dev on pre-1 kernel and generally love it. The desktop is a walking nightmare. Something continuously does not work: multiple screens, waking up from sleep etc. I really would like to move (we use Outlook but I am even ready to go for OWA) but Windows is considerably better on lap…

> but Windows is considerably better on laptops. I'll concede that if you're talking about the trackpad, Linux is disappointingly bad compared to Windows. It's really really shaky, scrolls up and down with a shockingly massive jitter. You start to wonder if the trackpad itself is malfunctioning. Sadly, the same trackpad works so much better on Windows. This is mainly about the pointer / trackpad drivers to be fair, b…

Yeah some drivers are still garbage. My asus laptop works great with trackpad but my dell not so much (it's an older laptop)

Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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From the TFA - This is not for http:// , https:// , file:// links. This is specifically for microsoft-edge:// links, which I've never seen. I think this applies only for Progressive Web Apps (PWAs). I'm wondering how many of the commentators here have actual read the article.

No, microsoft-edge links are used through Windows itself when it wants to show a webpage, e.g. from Cortana or a desktop widget. They open in Edge even if you've told Windows you want a different default browser

Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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Good news, in four years I run out of reasons not to go back to Windows 7, an OS that doesn't treat me with naked contempt.

they pushed updates for windowns 7 to nag windows 10 upgrade

Just block that update, something i'm not sure you can even do with 10..

Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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That gives me four years for the tools that lock me to Windows to decide to port to literally any other OS.

I'm not old and I have lived to see this sentiment come and go at least twice before. We're still on Windows.

> I'm not old and I have lived to see this sentiment come and go at least twice before. We're still on Windows.

In that time we've seen Microsoft concede the mobile market to iOS and Android and the server market to Linux and Google Docs manage to take a major chunk out of MS Office.

Microsoft is still extremely profitable, but it's not because of Windows anymore. Which is why they're now comfortable risking defection by screwing over the Windows customer more than ever. But that's what happens at the end, not the middle.

Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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Linux Desktop feeling extra good today, my sound often doesn't work but I don't have to deal with Microsoft nonsense.

My solution for audio on Linux was to buy a cheap USB sound adapter. They can often be found for under $10 and they just work.

Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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Linux Desktop feeling extra good today, my sound often doesn't work but I don't have to deal with Microsoft nonsense.

Frankly, sound has not been a problem for a long time now I think. Hell, the number of time windows killed the sound driver under usage for whatever reason it deemed useful, I actually would say nowadays Windows has the worst audio stack out of the 3 main OSs.

^ The only sound issues I've been having these days is Windows 10 randomly deciding to not recognize my USB audio interface after waking from standby and acting as-if I don't have audio output, requiring me to physically plug it out and back in again :)

Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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Microsoft is the abusive spouse of tech.

And yet most people keep trusting them with their code on Github. If people were smart, there would be Freenode-level mass migration away from GH the day the Microsoft purchase was confirmed. But no, everybody will only scream once Microsoft does something shady, as they inevitably will.

> And yet most people keep trusting them with their code on Github.

Honestly, from what I've seen many people don't see the issue with this. "The code is public anyway, so what difference does it make?"

I'm starting to see the downsides of that viewpoint now, though[0]. If GitHub, and by extension Microsoft, technically 'own' the code (licensing, etc.) then they have free reign over it, leading to things like Copilot and Intellicode.

[0]: https://github.com/MicrosoftDocs/intellicode/issues/201

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