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Re: Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again

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Post by pfortuny »

clavicat wrote: post #145

We are barbarians occupying a city built by an advanced civilization, marveling at the hot baths but know nothing about how their builders keep them running. One day, the baths will drain and anyone who remembers how to fill them up will have died.

So long as you live in a city you are probably forgetting most of the ways to survive.

I could not even try to discover which berries are edible without killing myself.

However, I can teach advanced maths to a largish group of students without much trouble.

Re: Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again

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Post by simcop2387 »

avs733 wrote: post #126
albatross13 wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Currently we're seeing 40kms response times from CloudFront distributions, we can't hit PagerDuty (probably runs on AWS), etc. I guess it could be an ISP thing but I guess we're all assuming 80/20.

I wonder if you really dug into most company's tech stacks, how many of their support tools (e.g., PagerDuty) are reliant on overlapping cloud providers.

Yea a number of people got hit by that, Louis Rossmann found out that every form of contact to his buisness was reliant on AWS east 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DE05jXUZ-FY

Re: Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again

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Post by lordnacho »

clavicat wrote: post #145

We are barbarians occupying a city built by an advanced civilization, marveling at the hot baths but know nothing about how their builders keep them running. One day, the baths will drain and anyone who remembers how to fill them up will have died.

Surely we are way past the point where someone knows how the whole thing works, all the way down.

I doubt even a very skilled engineer would know how his own machine works all the way down. What I think happens mostly is the skilled dev can use his experience to know where to investigate and where to look for solutions.

The question is organisational. Might it be that certain orgs have gotten so convoluted that they cannot do this investigation on an org level? Essentially, letting the right people look in the right places, unhindered by politics, legitimate security concerns, and practicality?

You'd think there'd be a limit to scale at some point. A bit of redundancy makes sense. There's probably a lot of people with multicloud setups patting themselves on the back at the moment.

Re: Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again

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Post by ceejayoz »

sam0x17 wrote: post #163

They really need to stop requiring SVPs or higher to show non-green status on the status page, as other HNers have revealed in last week's AWS post. It's effectively not a status page, and they could probably be sued if it can be demonstrated that X service was down but the status page showed green (since the SLA is based on status page). Should be automated and based on sample deployments running in every region and…

They were much faster than usual about updating the AWS Status page.

Re: Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again

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Post by nic_wilson »

clavicat wrote: post #145

We are barbarians occupying a city built by an advanced civilization, marveling at the hot baths but know nothing about how their builders keep them running. One day, the baths will drain and anyone who remembers how to fill them up will have died.

Is this a fifth season reference?

Re: Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again

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Post by bawolff »

clavicat wrote: post #145

We are barbarians occupying a city built by an advanced civilization, marveling at the hot baths but know nothing about how their builders keep them running. One day, the baths will drain and anyone who remembers how to fill them up will have died.

On-prem is much more rare, but its hardly non-existent. Plenty of people know how to do this sort of thing.
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