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> Can you talk us through exactly which rights you think are being violated? I recall the left has been very vocal about "my body my right" when it came to some different kind of issue. Funny that the standards don't hold very much.
> "my body my right" That debate is about the state forcing you to do something. This debate is about Google opting to not employ you. Not even remotely comparable.
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Unless you have medical exemption, it's just a jab in the arm?
>> ...it's just a jab in the arm Until it isn't. Then what are you going to do? Probably nothing except suffer debilitation for life or death (~20,000 that have been reported to VAERS, so probably substantially more). https://brandnewtube.com/watch/full-hearings-ron-johnson-039... Edit: spllng
And this is for a disease which has killed 821,335 Americans after infecting 51 million.
So if it’s absolutely perfectly safe and there is a roughly 5% chance of getting infected with Covid while waiting for the vaccine to take effect, it would look like this.
At some point I wonder if health insurers will start denying claims related to the treatment of COVID infections if the person is eligible for the vaccine but has refused to get one? On TV today I saw that Kroger employees don't get sick day pay if they are off because of COVID unless they have been vaccinated (and I would assume there's a medical exemption).
IMO this sentiment is just another manifestation of the overwhelming desire to punish the unvaccinated, rather than being based on clear thinking.
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It’s hilarious to see HN flip from “I dream of a future where no one has to work and fall under the yoke of greedy employers” to “just get injected with this drug and be thankful you have a job; don’t get it and you deserve to starve”.
The vaccines are the magic future where a small bit of technology prevents disease and death. > don’t get it and you deserve to starve It's not by chance that you have to make up ridiculous words and put them in my mouth to attempt to criticize the comment, either in this part where I quoted you, or in the weird assertion about no one having to work.
That's the part I've found so disappointing about this: a couple of decades of development and we have a massive breakthrough in our ability to rapidly create and update vaccines which precisely target near-arbitrary targets. Seeing what would have been a sci-fi technology when I was a kid being the target of so many conspiracy theories must be incredibly disappointing to all of the actual medical experts who worked so hard on this.
At some point I wonder if health insurers will start denying claims related to the treatment of COVID infections if the person is eligible for the vaccine but has refused to get one? On TV today I saw that Kroger employees don't get sick day pay if they are off because of COVID unless they have been vaccinated (and I would assume there's a medical exemption).
But isn't that the point of insurance? You pay in some money to offset the risk of an unlikely yet massive expense? What's special about covid versus other risky activities that individuals can take action to offset? Even something as horribly negligent as drunk-driving is handled by insurance. So are drug overdoses. IMO this sentiment is just another manifestation of the overwhelming desire to punish the unvaccinate…
The median age of Covid mortality is 80.
Think about that.
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Pretty sure they have shops there, as well. However, the people stocking the shops probably put on some clothes when they need to venture outside to get supplies.
Well I have never witnessed a mythical naked shopping mall, just some outdoor parks and gardens out away from most other people where only the clued-in would go. It is not ok to go out naked in public!
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> It's also worth noting that a whole bunch of vaccines are required to attend public school already [2]. Vaccines required at school while children don't get any kind of side effects of COVID19 anyway (and get more risks from the vaccine than anything else). This is so far from any kind of Science.
> Vaccines required at school while children don't get any kind of side effects of COVID19 Other than dying [1] you mean? Dying aside, children can still spread the virus. I’m sure someone will make the straw man argument of “the vaccine doesn’t 100% prevent transmission”, which is true but no one claimed it did. It does however improve the situation. [1]: https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Deaths-by-Sex-Ages-0-18-years/xa4b.…
We were promised this wouldn't happen by our governments last year right? It feels like the public are building their own prisons. Why are private companies stuck policing these absurd policies?
>We were promised this wouldn't happen by our governments last year right? We were promised that a company can't require a vaccine as a condition of employment? Seeing as some companies have required vaccines for as long as there have been vaccines, I think I must be misunderstanding you. >Why are private companies stuck policing these absurd policies? Companies are requiring the vaccine because they make employees l…