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Re: BusKill – A USB kill cord for laptops

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> There are devices that can exfiltrate information from what I understand almost every operating system through USB. If that is true, then it is a vulnerability. You should file bug reports.

How will you prevent a USB device to present itself as both a keyboard and mass storage and then type commands that copy data?

An OS doesn't even need to implement USB support. Of course it can offer access controls to enable the USB devices.

Re: BusKill – A USB kill cord for laptops

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Unfortunately, iOS-provided location resolution for use in shortcuts makes it worthless for in-home use. Unless you live in a mansion though I guess.

You are assuming the signal is strong enough to be read at a distance. I just used the RSSI, and going away a few meters was enough. Moreover, since that was just a nicety in case I forgot to lock my computer during a corridor conversation, I could get away with a longer timeout. A more sophisticated implementation could be done if you can write software on the device. A PineTime would be perfect for this. I am not s…

I always carry my phone, even if moving to another room. I assumed that a similar behavior is why you got rid of your wristband.

Re: BusKill – A USB kill cord for laptops

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post #147

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How will you prevent a USB device to present itself as both a keyboard and mass storage and then type commands that copy data?

An OS doesn't even need to implement USB support. Of course it can offer access controls to enable the USB devices.

Of course not, but then you're saying USB is a security flaw.

My point is that given how universal USB as long as a device can do both input and output it's going to be very hard to stop some exfiltration from being possible.

Do you really think a bug report should be filed on all OS's for allowing USB drives and keyboards to be plugged on a running system?

Re: BusKill – A USB kill cord for laptops

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Exactly. You need something not for when your laptop is removed from you , but when you are removed from your laptop. Also, if you are being targeted this hard you need to have something for when you are left in front of your laptop and a gun is put to your head. Or the attackers threaten the welfare of your family.

> You need something not for when your laptop is removed from you, but when you are removed from your laptop. Yeah, this wouldn't have saved the admin of Alphabay, a now defunct darknet market. The FBI staged a car crash outside his house so when he'd come out to see what was going on they could arrest him and likely get to his laptop while it was unlocked. Then again, he really shouldn't have left his computer unloc…

That seems like a great expense to go to for the sake of a possibility the guy might do more than peek out of the window and then go back to what they were doing.

Surely there were a bunch of other options to consider before "let's stage a car crash"?

Re: BusKill – A USB kill cord for laptops

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I thought standard practice was to run no battery, AC adapter only mode.

They will hit the outlet and bring the AC with them, without bumping voltage.

What kind of equipment does one use to do this?

Re: BusKill – A USB kill cord for laptops

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The only problem is this is sort of obvious from a forensics perspective. Person is using truecrypt, they boot it up for you, and the partition is only half the size it should be.

Your parent seems to point out that's not how it works: you've got access to the ful partition either way, meaning you can accidentally overwrite the other partition.

If I remember right, the hidden partitions are indistinguishable from random data on your disk and it was necessary to provide an offset to the first block (or whatever) so it could be decrypted. You could easily overwrite it accidentally because it just looks like free space.

Re: BusKill – A USB kill cord for laptops

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There are any number of ways to do this, but one is a LUKS encrypted file system and "self destruct" is wiping out the LUKS header and halting. Only the backup of the LUKS header (not with you at the time!) will restore the data.

Yeah, I have that on my servers in case somebody tries to hack them. There is a secret to logging to my machines and if you miss it the machine self destructs in a reversible way. Can't give more information but it is pretty easy to boot it again. One thing of note here, don't put LUKS header on any kind of flash (like SSD) or SMR HDD.

> self destructs in a reversible way

Reversibility is not a feature of destruction, lexically-speaking. A better description might be "locked".

More importantly in this case: if you are able to reverse it, you can be compelled to reverse it. This is no different than having a secret passphrase.

Re: BusKill – A USB kill cord for laptops

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There are mentions in this thread about false positives, risk of data loss, others. This made me think of Star Trek's use of a self destruct phrase. Obviously their method is too slow, but you could have a "duress" phrase and a "all clear" phrase. User-Defined Phrase: "Please dont kill me", activates "duress" mode. - A daemon listens in the background for a phrase of your choice. When detected, your laptop makes a so…

BusKill does not ship with destructive triggers. The current app is limited to locking your screen. Future releases will include soft/hard shutdown.

We do have a "LUKS Header Shredder" trigger (which we call self-destruct as it renders all the data on the FDE disk useless), but we (intentionally) don't include it by default and raise the barrier of entry because of the risk of data loss.

We'll be publishing a more detailed write-up on the LUKS Header Shredder in 2 weeks. You can subscribe for updates on our website (buskill.in) or the campaign directly (crowdsupply.com)

Re: BusKill – A USB kill cord for laptops

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I hate everything about this website. It uses all the tropes of a bad kickstarter campaign, and to sell you this item it preys on fear and misunderstanding. I absolutely do not trust that this company has my best interest at heart. It's so bad I wouldn't go near this product for any money.
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