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back up as of now (10:10a PDT) This sure makes it easy to know who is hosted by google by going to downdetector.com.

Hmm it shows the same spike for instagram and aws as well. Would be funny to me if something on their end depends on GCP. https://downdetector.com/status/aws-amazon-web-services/ https://downdetector.com/status/instagram/

Google Analytics registering as client fails, maybe?

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This is clearly the hottest thing on HN right now, and it was bumped from #1 to #6, anyone knows why? Is it some kind of bot protection?

User flags, because outages are a fact of everyday life.

Which is dumb, linking to status pages shouldn't be on HN. A blog that has analysis and explanations of outages or post mortems should.

knock-knock dang

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...and there's a reason for that. Automations to update the status page are rarely acceptable, since the status page statuses have legal and financial implications. Therefore, the IM usually has to update it (or tell someone to update it). But, realistically, when you get paged, you first need to figure out what exactly is wrong and at least a vague idea of why. Then, you need to tell someone to update the page. Then…

Also, in most teams, people who do external communication are different from those doing triage and troubleshooting.

Yeah, but they are still people who are responding to a page, working on wording and getting it approved, and then updating.

20 minutes seems pretty reasonable to me.

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Cool, how do I stream the newest Taylor Swift album on that?

My colleague (who loves Taylor Swift) bought the mp3s from somewhere (amazon?) and uploaded them onto her plex server the hour it came out. That server continues to work just fine.

As a heavy plex user, I can't imagine using it as my default music player. CX isn't great for music, IMO.

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post #183

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User flags, because outages are a fact of everyday life.

Which is dumb, linking to status pages shouldn't be on HN. A blog that has analysis and explanations of outages or post mortems should. knock-knock dang

Dang doesn't see messages like that unless you use the footer Contact link, but I remember a comment from him a while back that I would summarize as "Some site users think it's a good use of HN, and other site users disagree and flag it, and we downweight/dedupe them sometimes and/or if someone emails us with the Contact link". I just didn't want you to wait for a reply that'll never come unless you Contact them.

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post #160

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It's Google though.. they stop automating everything? At least make the screen not show all green or something automatically

Which things should not be green? If the automation is working the services will be up. When an incident is happening it's because something is significantly broken , and automation won't properly understand what is and is not working. For instance, lots of follow-on alarms might be firing for what are not actually issues with the things being monitored: As an example, I would imagine that datacenter temperatures and…

Monitoring should be on a different system, unaffected by an outage in the monitored system.

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The big three cloud platforms all have this issue of delayed status updates. Why do you think it's just GCP?

...and there's a reason for that. Automations to update the status page are rarely acceptable, since the status page statuses have legal and financial implications. Therefore, the IM usually has to update it (or tell someone to update it). But, realistically, when you get paged, you first need to figure out what exactly is wrong and at least a vague idea of why. Then, you need to tell someone to update the page. Then…

Not updating the status page, to avoid the legal and financial implications, is fraud -- taking money on false pretenses.

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post #178

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Which things should not be green? If the automation is working the services will be up. When an incident is happening it's because something is significantly broken , and automation won't properly understand what is and is not working. For instance, lots of follow-on alarms might be firing for what are not actually issues with the things being monitored: As an example, I would imagine that datacenter temperatures and…

Monitoring should be on a different system, unaffected by an outage in the monitored system.

I think that's tangential to my point. The concerns in my post you replied to about system interdependence making it hard for a monitoring system to separate cause and effect, even if that monitoring system is itself working properly.
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