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Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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Post by haunter »

godshatter wrote: post #78

I'm usually of the opinion that the more information the better, but I also think that the dislike/downvote button adds a lot to the toxicity levels, mainly for comments. It's much better for a group to get excited about something and over-like it than for a group to get angry about something and over-dislike it. So I guess I'd rather see the dislike button be removed more than I would like to use that information to…

>It's much better for a group to get excited about something and over-like it than for a group to get angry about something and over-dislike it.

Toxic positivity is not a good thing, and not "much better"

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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Post by city41 »

wolpoli wrote: post #147

> We understand that some of you have used dislikes to help decide whether or not to watch a video–still, we believe this is the right thing to do for our platform, and to help create an inclusive and respectful environment where creators have the opportunity to succeed and feel safe to express themselves. It's very sad that this is the only instance in the announcement where they mention viewers, and the reasons cit…

YouTube has shown the viewers's interests are not very important to them. About a year ago they greatly increased the number of ads, and it does seem over the past few months they have tweaked the algorithm to merch more clickbaity/mainstream videos. Helping me find interesting content just doesn't seem to be what YouTube cares about at all.

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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Post by elondaits »

louissan wrote: post #110

I find this pathetic. As if the removal of the "dislike button" helps in any way, shape or form to create a more "inclusive" environment. This reeks of the silencing of what is perceived as dissident voices, is all. I've personally never hit a like or dislike button in my life, never will ... but found it interesting as a viewer to see the ratio. Even knowing this ratio is probably at least partially the outcome of b…

Actually it was Sony who recently had their trailers spammed with dislikes by Spider-Man stans complaining for the delay in the release of the second trailer for “Spider-Man: No Way Home”.

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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Post by allenu »

qwertox wrote: post #4

Hmm. For me the dislike button was informative. If feels like they are trying to create a world where everything can only be good, better, even more better, which just doesn't represent reality. Imagine Stack Overflow only having the option to upvote Questions and Answers. The ratio of likes vs dislikes of a TED talk does help me to decide if I should stop watching a video which just isn't getting better.

I also found it informative. If I see a clip explaining something that has a large number of dislikes, I immediately back out and look for another one. Most of the time, those dislikes are warranted.

I honestly don't know if it's a generational thing or overall cultural shift, but it feels like negativity (at least in the workplace is where I've seen this) is either less tolerated or less shared. There's a bias towards being positive about everything, even for things that aren't... great. It feels like self censorship, and this isn't even for things that are political, just subjective.

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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Post by cletus »

I'm sure this is to appease brands and we can say a lot about that.

But I want to focus on one big problem with dislikes and down votes. It applies to Youtube, Reddit, HN and probably everywhere you can dislike something: too often people use it simply because they disagree with the opinion expressed or simply dislike to creator or author.

This really diminishes the value of downvoting (IMHO) and I'm surprised someone hasn't tried to address it by figuring out who these opinion downvoters are and just shadow banning them, specifically you let them interact with the UI elements but it doesn't do anything. My theory is you'd get a much better result.

You also have people who review bomb things and I'm not sure how I feel about that. It's a way to express dissatisfaction with, say, company actions (eg ridiculous DRM) and that has value.

You also see things like on restaurant reviews "giving one star because even though the food was excellent and we had a reservation for 4 at 7pm on Friday night, we had to wait 45 minutes when we turned up at 8pm with a party of 11".

I am inclined to think that downvoting and dislikking actually has pretty limited value with the way people use it.

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