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Post by mhitza »

simiones wrote: post #162
melff wrote: post #112

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> This might not count for XBox users, which can use the controller on their PC. I use PS4 controllers with my PC(linux), pretty sure they work with windows too. What controllers cannot be connected to a PC?

No idea about the PS5, but the PS3 controllers couldn't be used on Windows at least. PS4 controllers can be used, they work out of the box (USB only if I remember correctly?) - played lots of Dark Souls 3 with them on my PC.

I've used the PS3 controller on both Linux (out of the box) and Windows. And for the later it was true that I needed to download a separate application, and play a bunch of plug/unplug to get the controller recognized. But once that ritual worked out, I was ready to play.

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Post by Medox »

fabian2k wrote: post #157
rich_sasha wrote: post #85

Given all the issues described in this thread, what is the upside of a game console (non-gamer)? Why not get a PC that you can automatically use for other things, can play games from any vendor etc (some of the issues mentioned in the thread). Are consoles cheaper “per transistor” or sth? If so, why? Is it about the vendor locking you in and charging more per game? That would seem even more skewed against the buyer:…

Playing on a TV is different than on a desk. Of course you can do both with a PC, but often you don't have your PC in the right place to play on the couch in front of your TV. There are console-exclusive games, depending on which types of games you like those exclusives can be extremely interesting. A PC is more expensive, almost always has been. If you need a desktop PC anyway, that might not matter much as you only…

I have a decent gaming PC but still got the PS3, PS4 afterwards and now the PS5 for their portability. We have gaming / couch co-op nights of 4 and play Fifa or split-screen games.

The PS3 even supported 7 controllers and is still used for some Bomberman Ultra. The PS4 and PS5 sadly max out at 4...

And these are still half the size and weight of my PC. Of course there are mini-itx gaming rigs out there but those cost as much or more than all my consoles and controllers together.

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Post by zeusk »

maccard wrote: post #159
haunter wrote: post #93

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- Cheaper than a gaming PC. Of course it depends on your setup but for the same price ($500 MSRP) it would be hard to build a decent rig that plays the current gen new games perfectly - It just works. Games can have bugs but no hassle with installation, drivers etc. Games are more or less better optimzed because all the devs are working on the same hardware. No 100s different CPU and GPU. And one operating system - E…

It just works is a huge one. Driver issues and OS versions are such a huge pain even now. Many games require brand new drivers (which very often very very unstable), and the MS store required your windows version to be up to date, and everyone has their story about windows update being stuck for months on end. That's before you get into the "openness" of PC - if you want to play a game on steam but your friend has bo…

> you want to play a game on steam but your friend has bought it on the Microsoft store how do you play together? How do you voice chat?

Both services support adding non platform games through their shortcut/executable.

They also support voice chat for groups and players not in game.

> What do you do when the Xbox services don't work when docker is installed?

File a bug report? Or you just came up with some hypothetical issues?

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Post by zeusk »

haunter wrote: post #175
lucideer wrote: post #158

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This list is good but clearly targeted at ps & Xbox. The arguments are a bit different, but even stronger, for 2021's highest selling console (switch) - even cheaper, and not a case of paying later for $70 games - exclusives: by far the biggest draw to switch Interesting enough to spur Valve to launch a portable competitor so it'll be interesting to see how those pros hold up.

Oh yeah for sure. Also GamePass is insane value for Xbox and I know a lot of people only buy it for that

Gamepass ultimate includes gamepass for pc, ea play and Xbox live.

Insane amount of value, I haven’t purchased a game other than bf2042 in past two years.

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Post by plif »

rich_sasha wrote: post #85

Given all the issues described in this thread, what is the upside of a game console (non-gamer)? Why not get a PC that you can automatically use for other things, can play games from any vendor etc (some of the issues mentioned in the thread). Are consoles cheaper “per transistor” or sth? If so, why? Is it about the vendor locking you in and charging more per game? That would seem even more skewed against the buyer:…

Accessibility.

I can't game on PC anymore because of RSI when using mouse. Even for cross platform games, the console version usually has far superior controller support.

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Post by tpxl »

SirHound wrote: post #174
rich_sasha wrote: post #85

Given all the issues described in this thread, what is the upside of a game console (non-gamer)? Why not get a PC that you can automatically use for other things, can play games from any vendor etc (some of the issues mentioned in the thread). Are consoles cheaper “per transistor” or sth? If so, why? Is it about the vendor locking you in and charging more per game? That would seem even more skewed against the buyer:…

I believe consoles are indeed cheaper because 1. they can be sold at a loss (whether or not they actually are now, they have been historically) as the manufacturers make that back on games 2. they bulk order components and package/market them as a single piece. I much prefer gaming on consoles because I can't be bothered with all the mental overhead that comes with PC gaming. Like most of us I don't have much time. I…

Looks like what you're describing is at least partially implemented in Steam Big Picture mode.

> Big Picture is a mode of Steam designed for use with your TV and game controller, so you can enjoy your Steam games from the comfort of your couch. With the press of a button, Steam displays a full-screen user interface which has been completely redesigned for readability and interaction on TV. It can also be used on your usual computer display.

It wont solve the hardware/ram/compatibility problems, but in my experience there are not many of those on the latest Ubuntu. If it works, it works well, and if it doesn't it doesn't at all. And mostly it does.

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Post by fabian2k »

zaarn wrote: post #178
fabian2k wrote: post #166

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If you want to play the kind of games you'd play on a console in a similar quality, your figures will only pay for the GPU, and that just barely. The prices are completely insane right now, PC gaming is not very affordable today. And PC games also cost money, at least if we're talking about similar types of games as on the consoles.

You can definitely get a GPU for affordable prices if you're willing to wait. The insane prices apply if you want a GPU now . Also keep in mind that consoles are subject to the very same price increase, it's nearly impossible to obtain a console for the advertised price.

I got a PS5 months ago for the regular price (400 EUR for the digital-only version), and I didn't put that much effort into getting it. A 3060 would be at least 700 EUR right now.

And the GPU prices have been rather expensive, if not as outright insane as right now for years. So PC gaming in general has become less attractive from a financial point while console prices are pretty much the same (though with some difficulty in getting them, for sure).

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Post by znpy »

lilyball wrote: post #67
mananaysiempre wrote: post #43

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Wait, wasn’t it the other way around? There was that fail0verflow slide about how the PS3 took unusually long to crack if you count from the release, but essentially the same time as other consoles if you count from the moment one couldn’t run other OSes on it.

If it was cracked after Linux was removed, then what was the reason for removing Linux? My recollection was that it was a security vulnerability.

Some people started buying ps3 to build compute clusters.

This was because the ps3 had a very strong processor made by ibm, using rhe powerpc isa.

This meant that ibm started losing sales of their powerpc systems.

So the story i know is that ibm "asked" sony to stop allowing linux on the ps3.

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Post by ImportOllie »

rich_sasha wrote: post #85

Given all the issues described in this thread, what is the upside of a game console (non-gamer)? Why not get a PC that you can automatically use for other things, can play games from any vendor etc (some of the issues mentioned in the thread). Are consoles cheaper “per transistor” or sth? If so, why? Is it about the vendor locking you in and charging more per game? That would seem even more skewed against the buyer:…

As a casual gamer, for me it's largely that i'm playing a game from the comfort of my sofa and using the big screen vs using a PC at the desk I've been working at all day.

Plus there's still a culture of buying and selling hard copy console games which can make the net running cost next to nothing.

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