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The metaverse is already here – it's Minecraft

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Re: The metaverse is already here – it's Minecraft

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I read a recent interview from mark zuck about the metaverse and someone asked him a similar question. He had an actually really insightful answer. 1) Most american adults watch several hours of TV per day. alternatively, many play a few hours of video games. (The actual per-person-per-day numbers are very high compared to the average 2hr/week i watch tv but whatever). Most of TV and Video Games are about ignoring re…

Conceptually, a VR workroom sounds like it could be extremely nifty. As someone easily distracted, I'd love to be able to sit in space with only a text editor open and do my thing. In practice, excluding resolution, wearing a headset for hours on end seems even more straining both for the neck and eyes than the alternative real life workstation.

It only sounds cool until you have to be sitting in a virtual room for 8 hours while your work engagement is analyzed for various micromanagers to sift through

Re: The metaverse is already here – it's Minecraft

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I'm frustrated that everywhere I look I keep seeing "metaverse" and "VR" used interchangeably. All of the things described above are VR, and none of them are the metaverse. Watching TV or playing a game in an immersive, distraction-free VR environment sounds great, and will happen, and it's not the metaverse, it's just VR. Working in a virtual home office has the potential to be extremely productive, ergonomic, and s…

Frankly the problem is, none of these are really well defined. I think Zuck wants the general consensus to lean towards: VR - Is a user interface. Metaverse is a network built for that user interface. Historically, we had screen and keyboard based user interfaces, and with it text based gaming like Zork. Then we had screen and controller based user interfaces, and with it games like Pong. At a certain point we got th…

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Re: The metaverse is already here – it's Minecraft

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Who said something needs to be federated for it to be the metaverse? That's nowhere in the definition. I'd argue that scifi examples (like Ready Player One) show that it can be proprietary. I'm not saying it's good to be controlled by one org. Just that the number of orgs controlling the infra has nothing to do with being the metaverse or not.

Why do people cite fictional examples as if they matter at all? Honestly wondering. It's certainly good for imagining the possibilities, but this thread is talking about something that could actually happen. Facebook itself would be a better example to your point as it's the largest social network.

in the absence of actual examples, fiction can and sometimes does function as thought experimentation. It can be valid, although in this case, I would argue is not, because Ready Player One does not actually offer any real critique of the OASIS or of the metaverse concept generally; in the story, the OASIS is the damsel in distress, not the aggressor.

Re: The metaverse is already here – it's Minecraft

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post #49

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I'm frustrated that everywhere I look I keep seeing "metaverse" and "VR" used interchangeably. All of the things described above are VR, and none of them are the metaverse. Watching TV or playing a game in an immersive, distraction-free VR environment sounds great, and will happen, and it's not the metaverse, it's just VR. Working in a virtual home office has the potential to be extremely productive, ergonomic, and s…

The fact that the definition of the "metaverse" is stipulating so much disagreement and discussion is itself the problem. When smartphones were launched there was a simple description - "oh cool, it's a traditional phone but it has a computer running inside of it? makes sense"

I'd say that this is closer to when "the cloud" came about. No one was quite sure what it was, but everyone wanted in.

To quote (some) of Larry Ellisons famous statements about it:

"The interesting thing about cloud computing is that we’ve redefined cloud computing to include everything that we already do. … The computer industry is the only industry that is more fashion-driven than women’s fashion."

"Maybe I’m an idiot, but I have no idea what anyone is talking about. What is it? It’s complete gibberish. It’s insane. When is this idiocy going to stop?"

Re: The metaverse is already here – it's Minecraft

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But the metaverse itself is not content. Instead it’s another medium to consume content. Therefore the metaverse isn’t a replacement for a video games or TV. You would simply watch TV or play a video game while in the metaverse. The metaverse in that regard isn’t a new concept, because VR spaces have existed for a long time now. I’ve watched movies in Minecraft more recently, for example. I’ve seen every idea in the…

A big reason the internet took off is one that I guess will be banned by default in the metaverse : 18+ content.

And anonymity. See how many are active in VR community under their legal full real names. Some mention their IRL names on social profiles as footnotes, but if they did care, that person is not important in VR.

Re: The metaverse is already here – it's Minecraft

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post #76

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I read a recent interview from mark zuck about the metaverse and someone asked him a similar question. He had an actually really insightful answer. 1) Most american adults watch several hours of TV per day. alternatively, many play a few hours of video games. (The actual per-person-per-day numbers are very high compared to the average 2hr/week i watch tv but whatever). Most of TV and Video Games are about ignoring re…

I'm incredulous that having a screen strapped half an inch from your eyes for 8+ hours is desirable. I have an Oculus Rift, my face is sweaty/red in a couple of hours and there is an indent around my eyes. I'm sure newer tech can be much better, especially with airflow and an AR set that lets in natural light. We're not there yet, though.

Also, two words for people sharing VR goggles: ocular herpes.
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