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Trump’s new social media platform found using Mastodon code
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#182Do we really have to give this guy the #1 Hacker News story? He was fading into the background so nicely.
I think that looking upon him as The One Who's Name We Shall Not Speak and effectively killing him on the internet will lead to him becoming a martyr among his supporters. Considering his diverse support from a number of different grass root and/or radical movements, I would say it could backfire on you, hard. We've seen what powers he bestows. These will increase with martyrdom.
Fading into insignificance does not make him a martyr.
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#183Kinda off and I have no horses in the race but how come Mastodon has so many gambling sites and casinos as sponsors? Never knew that, feels a bit odd. Also personally not a big fan of this...
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#184Does a history of enforcement help in cases like this? The article itself says that Truth Social is "antithetical" to Mastodon's values, but that there's nothing they can do about the usage of their software other than license violations. It sounds like they have a bias to enforce their license in this case. If Mastodon has a weak history of enforcing their license to other organizations, does it weaken the case? I'm…
That trademark stuff is an excuse for wealthy litigious companies, it isn't actually how the law works and we should stop giving them a pass. Disney, Nintendo and similar outfits can afford to go after people who weren't causing them any harm and so they do.
> it isn't actually how the law works and we should stop giving them a pass.
That’s not accurate. Trademark law does require active policing and enforcement, and failure to enforce a trademark can be grounds for losing it.
Yes, big corps probably are more aggressive than the law requires, but it’s a pretty fuzzy, not super well defined, line.
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#185Mastodon has also banned Gab and others from the network that they disagree with. The whole point of a federated system is free speech... yet they have spent a lot of time trying to kick out people who disagree with them.
Frankly, it’s disheartening I want to know what the communists, fascists, republicans, democrats, racists, religious, technocrats, etc want to say.
It’s so frustrating having everyone in bubbles and getting banned for speaking about topics. The most calls for hate and violence I’ve seen are on Twitter and not from the right lol...
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#186Earlier quoted context omitted.
If all software was licensed that way, 5-15 years would pass then suddenly there'd be a whole bunch of "Wow, Stallman was right again! We should have been using free software licenses!" style articles. Restricting software use to only people approved by the creators is a terrible idea. Society has to operate with some level of trust that even people we disagree with, using methods we don't approve of, have the potent…
Why? The creators created the software, they can put any conditions they please on how others might use it. They're under no moral or legal obligation to allow people to use the fruits of their labors, except as they permit.
They can, which doesn't mean they should.
Also, I think a person has a mortal obligation to allow that their political position is at least partially flawed.
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#187Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's the shortsightedness part of it. They should have tried to get them license compliant and may be even negotiated with them to keep it compatible with Mastodon network. It would have not only helped both parties but also introduced Mastodon to more non tech users. Instead, it appears to be the typical knee-jerk reaction for woke points. So now Mastodon is liberal, left leaning and want to control what people di…
> They should have tried to get them license compliant That's precisely what Mastodon is trying to do. In fact, that's _all_ they're trying to do, as the article made clear.
> of course we would prefer if people so antithetical to our values did not use and benefit from our labour
it is clear that they are not interested in coopting them
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#188In terms of "antithetical values", the machine learning project ml5js.org actually did something about this. They bound their open-source license to a Code of Conduct¹, which forbids the use of their ML software for (1) discriminating against marginalized communities, (2) building tools that disingenuously manipulate public opinion, (3) building tools of mass surveillance and prediction to repress the rights of peopl…
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#189Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why? In what world does using software to marginalize people or mislead the public create a better world?
See, this is where the creators of the CoC made a mistake, either of malice or ignorance. >(Do Not)Use ml5.js to build tools that discriminate against marginalized communities That could be better put as >(Do Not)Use ml5.js to build tools that discriminate By adding in "marginalized communities", they are creating loopholes. Some discrimination is good, as long as it is to people we don't like. Is discrimination agai…
It's such a silly Americanized view. With they would leave that crap out of everything they touch and just write software.
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#190Earlier quoted context omitted.
No, we mean the fat orange KGB troll by the same name.
Please, trump has defects enough so we don't have to resort to this stupid Russian conspiracy lie.
I'm sorry but what part was a lie? Russians did hack the DNC, sparing the RNC. They did coordinate with Trump associate Roger Stone in the distribution of the materials, and Stone informed Trump of this. Trump's campaign did meet with a Russian spy at Trump's residence to discuss a quid pro quo deal in which dirt on Clinton was exchanged for relaxed foreign relations, both of which did materialize from the respective parties. Trump did solicit help from Russian hackers to attack Hillary Clinton, an attack which did materialize according to investigators.
And to top it all off, Trump's campaign manager Paul Manafort, who was deep in debt to a Russian oligarch (Deripaska) yet working pro bono for Trump (a billionaire), was caught giving internal campaign polling data to a Russian intelligence officer (Kilimnik) working directly for Deripaska, which was then used to target the social media psyops campaign by the GRU.
This is exactly the collusion many said occurred during the 2016 election, and just because it took 5 years to prove doesn't mean we were wrong in 2016 when we pointed out what was obvious to us. Yes some took it too far and said Trump was a literal agent of Russia, but the effect is really the same agent or not - the Trump campaign was working hand-in-hand with Russia to get him elected over Clinton. They were coordinating in public and private, sharing data, making deals, and following through on those deals, and they all lied about all of it at every opportunity (establishes consciousness of guilt). Collusion.
These are all facts laid out in the Mueller Report Vol I [1], the Senate Intel report on Russian Active Measures (especially Vol V) [2], and the US Treasury Department [3]. Calling all of this a "lie" at this point feel like memory holing.
[1] http://opensourcemuellerreport.com/mueller-report-vol-1.pdf
[2] https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/publications/report-sele...