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Overly analytical guide to escorting

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Re: Overly analytical guide to escorting

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At 17%, if you do it a long period of time you definitely get it. Even if it isn't deadly virus, you get something nasty and most likely permanently.

I find it a bit surprising that 17% report STDs while only 9% report not using a condom at all. I would have expected causality.

Do you think condoms are always 100% effective at preventing all STDs?

Re: Overly analytical guide to escorting

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Very interesting article. Do I understand correctly that sex work is still illegal in the US? If so, what's the rationale? Why can't consenting adults do what they want with their body?

If a woman is poor, struggling to survive or trying to give a child a decent life in a society and economic system that is very sink or swim, do you consider it "consent" if she agrees to have sex with you so she can pay the rent, or have a decent meal, or buy the drugs she got hooked on dealing with depression and alienation, sold to her by a predatory drug dealer?

This is not a good take, what you described applies to every single person in the world with a job. The correct reason sex work is a complex subject is because it involves human trafficking.

Re: Overly analytical guide to escorting

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Of course not. It's like smoking, a case for disincentives. As for data that doesn't yet exist, I can't comment.

Why are you already bringing up disincentives? Your comments hint that you've already decided there is something inherently wrong with paying directly for sex. You're totally dismissing the possibility that research might very well find that prostitution is a net positive for individuals, and that most of the associated negatives are caused by its criminalization.

You're right, research could show that it's an unmitigated benefit and I would have to reevaluate my position. I cannot however live in the world of hypotheticals. My present understanding is based on existing information available.

Philosophically I am wary of the coercive power of money in relationships. The economy is misunderstood enough, I can't imagine the situation is better when it comes to intimacy markets. Can I coin the phrase Psychological economics?

I see parasocial relationships as something like a new virus that the human psyche has no immunity towards. People naturally think in emotional rather than transactional terms.

Re: Overly analytical guide to escorting

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It should be decriminalized , not regulated. I would have liked to have been able to go to the police about the client who assaulted me, but unfortunately this didn't cross my mind as an option.

There are lots of bad things that arguably shouldn't be illegal but suppressed. Smoking, abortion, prostitution, drugs, etc. I think for society to fully embrace decriminalization there needs to be a diversion mechanism. Cigarettes have taxes and programs to quit. What would the prostitution equivalent be? "Something is either morally wrong or it isn't, it can't be slightly morally wrong" Therein lies the difficulty.…

> What would the prostitution equivalent be?

Universal basic income

Re: Overly analytical guide to escorting

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post #156

Very interesting article. Do I understand correctly that sex work is still illegal in the US? If so, what's the rationale? Why can't consenting adults do what they want with their body?

If a woman is poor, struggling to survive or trying to give a child a decent life in a society and economic system that is very sink or swim, do you consider it "consent" if she agrees to have sex with you so she can pay the rent, or have a decent meal, or buy the drugs she got hooked on dealing with depression and alienation, sold to her by a predatory drug dealer?

Seems a bit inconsistent to throw desperate addicts/single mothers in jail if they steal car stereos for meth money/baby food, but blame their johns if they turn to sex work instead. Which is it?

Re: Overly analytical guide to escorting

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If a woman is poor, struggling to survive or trying to give a child a decent life in a society and economic system that is very sink or swim, do you consider it "consent" if she agrees to have sex with you so she can pay the rent, or have a decent meal, or buy the drugs she got hooked on dealing with depression and alienation, sold to her by a predatory drug dealer?

This is not a good take, what you described applies to every single person in the world with a job. The correct reason sex work is a complex subject is because it involves human trafficking.

And intimacy in a way few other workers experience.

Re: Overly analytical guide to escorting

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I was squarely on the decriminalize camp but as with everything, life tends to give you more perspectives. The ethical calculus appears to be more complicated than the straightforward 2 consenting adults engaged in a victimless crime. Consider the current rates of single mothers, the increasing trends of broken homes and higher divorce rates, one is forced to really examine what is under the belly of this beast. Is t…

Considering that prostitution has been around forever, and divorce has been long-term falling since the initial transition when it became legal and socially acceptable, I think you should examine some of your assumptions.

https://ifstudies.org/blog/the-us-divorce-rate-has-hit-a-50-...

Re: Overly analytical guide to escorting

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If a woman is poor, struggling to survive or trying to give a child a decent life in a society and economic system that is very sink or swim, do you consider it "consent" if she agrees to have sex with you so she can pay the rent, or have a decent meal, or buy the drugs she got hooked on dealing with depression and alienation, sold to her by a predatory drug dealer?

We all do stuff we'd rather not do for money.

Is there no limit to what you would do for money?

Re: Overly analytical guide to escorting

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post #156

Very interesting article. Do I understand correctly that sex work is still illegal in the US? If so, what's the rationale? Why can't consenting adults do what they want with their body?

If a woman is poor, struggling to survive or trying to give a child a decent life in a society and economic system that is very sink or swim, do you consider it "consent" if she agrees to have sex with you so she can pay the rent, or have a decent meal, or buy the drugs she got hooked on dealing with depression and alienation, sold to her by a predatory drug dealer?

How does prostitution being illegal improve this situation?

Re: Overly analytical guide to escorting

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Sex drive can become such a nuisance, especially as people get older.

I wonder why there are not more options to suppress it, or if there are, why there isn't more discussion of it.

I remember one episode of "Sex and the city" where a guy was on Prozac and therefore had no sex drive. He was happy with it and unwilling to change a thing, to the detriment of his girl-friend's desires.

So maybe that is just it, people take Prozac?

Or porn and masturbation are sufficient solutions for most people?

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