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Re: Twitch source code and customer data has reportedly been leaked

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Post by InvOfSmallC »

swarnie wrote: post #78
meheleventyone wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't that the basis of the economy with the increasing wealth gap and so on? It's not really materially different to paying Disney millionaires to go watch the latest Marvel movie.

Maybe if viewed in a cynical way yes. At least when i donate to blue origin i get something tangible delivered to my door. Where is the value exchange in being one of 10k people building a faux-relationship with a hot tub streamer?

I mean, in all honesty it's entertainment. To me Marvel is better but someone prefer hot tubs.

Re: Twitch source code and customer data has reportedly been leaked

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Post by _joel »

PUSH_AX wrote: post #160
cedilla wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If they use the common github approach of one fork per contributor, 6,000 repos accumulate quickly.

I've never worked in this way (when I've been part of the org), is it that common? What are the benefits of making everyone fork repos vs branching off the original repo?

It's common in general open source projects where you might want to send a patch for something that you don't have commit priveleges too, but I've never seen that used in enterprises as they have central auth / groups with the users required to work on the code.

Re: Twitch source code and customer data has reportedly been leaked

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Post by Loughla »

Miner49er wrote: post #132
meheleventyone wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not really! If you arbitrarily take $50k as a living wage then it's basically the top 2000 streamers who can make a living on Twitch. Random googling tells me there were approximately 8 million active streamers in September. Again arbitrarily assuming that 7 million of those are 'casual' and doing it for fun that means the percentage of streamers making a living wage is 0.002%. Back of the napkin math but kinda depre…

The thing with Twitch streaming is that you can do it from almost anywhere. So, $50k is maybe a bit high for a living wage. Plus, Twitch is probably just one source of income for many content creators. For many it's not their primary source, but just a side source. YouTube, Patreon, OnlyFans, outside sponsors, or even esports may be where they make most of their money.

This is a, maybe, long way to get to this, but keep with me. I have always been fascinated by understanding what is edible, useful, or "traditionally medicinal" in the natural world around me.

I have spent decades of my life learning about how to use, propagate, and cultivate most plants, animals, fungi, and minerals (not the propagate part here) in an area +/- 100 miles from where I live. I've taught a couple of State University extension classes, and regularly sell at a farmers market the things I gather/grow, just for shits and giggles.

People have asked me for years why I don't do this for a living. Why don't I do that instead of working a job that I am neutral to, but that pays the bills.

Because all of that sounds exhausting. Needing to maintain a presence on so many platforms, interact with so many people, and constantly be thinking about my next thing for all of the various platforms is just exhausting.

I don't know how people can do it without burning out.

Re: Twitch source code and customer data has reportedly been leaked

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Post by lopis »

gverrilla wrote: post #171

I don't understand it: these companies have enormous funding, an army of employees, and they can't provide the service reliably (both regarding consistency and safety). What all these coders do all day? I'm asking as an uninformed party of course. But it looks to me like these are companies that build bridges, and their bridges are collapsing all the time.

What do you mean? You think all coders are security engineers? All code has dependencies, often dozens of them. You might just need a single vulnerability in a trusted third party library to allow this to happen. These are humans creating these products. I would say that SPECIALLY because of the size of these products, vulnerabilities are inevitable.

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Post by eddieroger »

gverrilla wrote: post #171

I don't understand it: these companies have enormous funding, an army of employees, and they can't provide the service reliably (both regarding consistency and safety). What all these coders do all day? I'm asking as an uninformed party of course. But it looks to me like these are companies that build bridges, and their bridges are collapsing all the time.

Uninformed point of view - I'd be curious the split of that army of employees, since the money isn't in keeping the lights on, it's in sales and feature development. Stability is rarely the forethought unless it's there from day one. It probably takes a lot of money and human hours to keep the streamers engaged, and far less to watch Grafana dashboards.

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Post by hnick »

waynesonfire wrote: post #131
hnick wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Source code is copyrighted surely? You can't share ebooks just because the "source" is open and visible, copyright applies to all creative works.

There is fair use exceptions? I'm no expert here but Google says, Since copyright law favors encouraging scholarship, research, education, and commentary, a judge is more likely to make a determination of fair use if the defendant's use is noncommercial, educational, scientific, or historical.

Probably fine for a journalist to argue, but I'd guess a tech guy saying it's "research" won't have much luck.

Re: Twitch source code and customer data has reportedly been leaked

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Post by 1121redblackgo »

fexelein wrote: post #180
1121redblackgo wrote: post #178

Are we sure that we are comfortable sharing the actual leak on this website? If we are, fine, but that is a choice we are making.

Why not?

It's illegally obtained information, sensitive information, about thousands of individuals and their personal businesses. I don't think its appropriate, and I would hate to be on that list right now.

Re: Twitch source code and customer data has reportedly been leaked

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Post by ZetaZero »

lemoncookiechip wrote: post #31

Link to the leak: https://boards.4channel.org/g/thread/83691438 Top 10k Streamers by Revenue: https://pastebin.com/LjmaPNam Contains the following data points: 'ad_share_gross', 'sub_share_gross', 'bits_share_gross', 'bits_developer_share_gross', 'bits_extension_share_gross', 'prime_sub_share_gross', 'bit_share_ad_gross', 'fuel_rev_gross', 'bb_rev_gross' (TTS donations, 3rd party revenue like OnlyFans, Patreon, Amazo…

81 streamers with 1m+ in revenues.

Re: Twitch source code and customer data has reportedly been leaked

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Post by stunt »

secondaryacct wrote: post #69
dannyw wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The leak contains much more than this FYI, there's a hundred gigabytes of code and resources from dozens of repositories. Looks like someone dumped everything on their github enterprise. I wonder if this'll lead to software engineers in big companies having more restricted access to code?

It s already the case and actually a big fight we re having (company of 70k employees spread everywhere) because we cant reverse engineer our upstream and downstream systems and it leads to huge bottlenecks trying to understand them when issues arise, as we need other teams etc.

Many of those companies still have a few (not always skilled) IT people with access to everything! And they sometimes make it easy for themselves by putting themselves in 2FA exception groups etc.
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