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The comments here as I write this are quite shocking. I would have imagined that HN's readership would be quite progressive. Maybe not. I do not think it is unreasonable for a corporate board to be required to include at least one woman or at least one non-white person. I also think it's quite shocking that all-white-male boards are so common that this is even necessary. It's an artifact of institutional racism and s…
Road the hell is paved with good intentions. As much as I support equality and diversity, I'm even more strongly opposed government over-reach. The state shouldn't have a say in who gets a job at a private (non owned by state) company. As the article state, I hope this will get over-turned by the courts. This would set a bad precedent. If the state can dictate the kind of person gets a highly coveted job, what else c…
Federal government already says you can't discriminate. They aren't saying, "you have to hire this person". They're saying you can't hire exclusively this type of person that currently dominates the top of society. Given that these boardrooms don't diversify themselves, what is the actual problem with it?
I sometimes watch professional sports, in particular basketball. There is very, very little diversity.
My son is in his first year of teaching elementary school. He tells me he is almost alone in the school, gender-wise.
I think this is a very complex topic, with lots of nuances.
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The poster I was responding to was noting that white people would look askance at blacks on the board, but I assume not whites. Both are at a high position, it only one group would be looked down on for any sort of privilege granted them. It is a function of race. Not an inherent function of being white, but rather the culture that allows white people to always believe “I did this myself”.
> Both are at a high position, it only one group would be looked down on for any sort of privilege granted them. It is a function of race. Not an inherent function of being white, but rather the culture that allows white people to always believe “I did this myself”. How is "looking down on for any sort of privilege" a function of race? I thought it was a function of the asymmetrical nature of the privilege.
I couldn’t think of a more Californian approach to fixing racial inequity. Instead of providing more economic opportunities for minorities to become executives, just make it illegal for the companies to not make them executives. Meanwhile, continue your state tradition of gentrifying diverse neighborhoods and letting techies take over San Francisco and LA. I think a lot of these dumb laws get pushed through because f…
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So that's your counter? Nothing against the actual merit of the statement? White people don't naturally assume they have their positions on merit? How many whites actually think, "Maybe I shouldn't have this position because of the advantage I've been given being white"? Seriously. How often do white males seriously ponder this?
Are they in that position because they are white, or are they in that position because they were born in privileged families? My country has had predominantly white, male Prime Ministers. What's even more remarkable is that every single one of them over the past 20 years went to highly exclusive private schools. The sort of private school that costs more than a good portion of adults earn, i.e $40k per annum. When yo…
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This is about equity, not equality, and it's increasingly clear that a lot of people don't know the difference.
Equity by its normal dictionary definition is great. But as the critical race theory worldview defines it, "equity" involves unequal treatment of people and discrimination (decisions made about how to treat people) on the basis of race. The idea is to retroactively create equal outcomes , not equal opportunities in the present. The problem is: a society can't create either equal outcomes or equal opportunities by int…
Society can't create equal outcomes, period. People don't want the same things in life. Some want to be of service to other people, some want to be rich so they can buy a yacht. You can't just give yachts to everyone and call that equality.
We do need safety net and equal opportunities
Personally I think the whole idea of equality is stupid because it just makes people compare their life to others instead of thinking about what they want in life. But again if we have to have equality then it's equal opportunities and more importantly, safety net.
The funny thing is that any actually bigoted company has a built in out. "Johnson, as the youngest member, the board has decided that you must identify as a woman for regulatory compliance." What are woke progressives going to do, deny that a man can identify as whatever gender she wants?
Can you just identify as a man on Monday, than a woman on Tuesday?
In other words, is sex a flag in your documents, or just something you say to be?
I am asking because I read that the racial identification is purely declarative.
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So that's your counter? Nothing against the actual merit of the statement? White people don't naturally assume they have their positions on merit? How many whites actually think, "Maybe I shouldn't have this position because of the advantage I've been given being white"? Seriously. How often do white males seriously ponder this?
It's rather amusing you assign the frequency of certain types of thinking to skin color. Do you think people who are black think "damn, I love chicken/watermelon/grape drink/stealing things/being violent! Do you think people of Asian descent are all good at math? Like I don't even understand how you can be so blind to the self-referential inconsistency here. Also, for the record? If you can talk the talk, and walk th…
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The problem is that the only real solution is a lot more extreme. I think once women are pregnant they go into managed care and babies are immediately taken at birth into academies (with no knowledge of parents) until adulthood. But that will never happen. Unfortunately short of that we’re likely to never have real equality.
> I think once women are pregnant they go into managed care and babies are immediately taken at birth into academies (with no knowledge of parents) until adulthood. In other words, you've just reinvented Plato's Republic. Historically, the closest things to this have been societies like the Puritans or Geneva under John Calvin, or in the 20th century, Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union. How well did those experiments…
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So that's your counter? Nothing against the actual merit of the statement? White people don't naturally assume they have their positions on merit? How many whites actually think, "Maybe I shouldn't have this position because of the advantage I've been given being white"? Seriously. How often do white males seriously ponder this?
Are they in that position because they are white, or are they in that position because they were born in privileged families? My country has had predominantly white, male Prime Ministers. What's even more remarkable is that every single one of them over the past 20 years went to highly exclusive private schools. The sort of private school that costs more than a good portion of adults earn, i.e $40k per annum. When yo…