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TSA’s “See cash, seize cash” policy

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Re: TSA’s “See cash, seize cash” policy

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Post by ClumsyPilot »

loloquwowndueo wrote: post #30
kragen wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My experience is the opposite. I can open up my wallet and take out a $1000 bill* in about three seconds; if change is due, that typically takes about another ten seconds. Paying with a credit card takes about a minute, four to ten times less convenient, except a significant percentage of the time the time " no hay sistema " and it just doesn't work, and sooner or later your credit card number gets sold to the Russia…

Gee man, it sounds like you live in quite the hell hole. Move to a decent country, you’ll be happier.

I find this kind of recommendation to a random stranger on the internet highly ubjectionable and indecent.

Have you considered, that if they agree they don't like their country, maybe they have to look after ageing or ill parents, or have other responsibilities they can't just abandon? Not to mention money ofcourse.

Re: TSA’s “See cash, seize cash” policy

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Post by ClumsyPilot »

bserge wrote: post #10
dmitrygr wrote: post #6

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That would be reported by the news and people would care. Whereas here we get this reaction: "they seized his money and say he is suspected of being a drug dealer, well then i have nothing to worry about - i am not a drug dealer."

Works even better in the EU. 20K in cash on an economy flight? Criminal! No other way. No way you saved up all of that, you poor pos!

It's better to have a clear law, even if it's wrong, so you can carry 19K in peace, then be randomly and unpredictably harrassed by authorities.

Re: TSA’s “See cash, seize cash” policy

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Post by SkipperCat »

dudul wrote: post #160
SkipperCat wrote: post #121

Why would you carry that much cash? I know he has every right to do so, but there are a lot of bad players out there (TSA included) and I would not want to risk it. You could deposit the money in a national bank (JPM, BoA, etc), call ahead and plan the withdraw from a local branch. I'm sure there are other players in this marker who would only charge a few grand to provide you the cash on site if you had the money in…

> Why would you carry that much cash? I know he has every right to do so, Well there you go. You answered your own question. He had every right to do so, so he did it. End of story.

I agree he has a right to, but I still wonder why he chose that course of action. There are plenty of things to do that are 100% legit but not worth the risk.

Maybe he just didn't know about CAF, maybe he thought it wouldn't happen to him or could other reasons. Either way, I hope other folks in the future take heed and don't trust LE with their bags of cash in transit.

Re: TSA’s “See cash, seize cash” policy

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Post by lotsofpulp »

zepto wrote: post #167
mywittyname wrote: post #47

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The police unions in this country are powerful. A lot of seized cash is treated as tax-free "bonuses" paid out to officers. Either directly, or indirectly by financing "team building exercises" at a Build Your Own AK Ranch or some shit. The prosecutors offices get their cut too, so they have an incentive to keep their mouths shut. Everyone else can be bullied into submission.

> A lot of seized cash is treated as tax-free "bonuses" paid out to officers. Either directly… Is this documented somewhere?

Based on this tweet, no:

https://twitter.com/JodyBarr/status/1440856532959170566?s=20

Re: TSA’s “See cash, seize cash” policy

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Post by [deleted] »

anyxdf wrote: post #48
standardUser wrote: post #12

It's surreal to me how little political or public support there is for ending these kinds of egregious government overreaches.

If you make it a BLM issue, there is a small chance of something happening. That is the only chance. Though the Democrats would probably come up with some sophisticated explanation why this particular case does not fall under BLM. Remember that Biden is the guy who pushed the Clipper Chip.

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Post by todd8 »

dragonwriter wrote: post #115
treeman79 wrote: post #114

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If a girl lists you as the parent on the birth certificate, some places will require you to make child support payments even if you prove that your not the father, never had anything todo with the child, etc. Welfare office Argument being is that someone should pay for the kid.

> If a girl lists you as the parent on the birth certificate, some places will require you to make child support payments even if you prove that your not the father, never had anything todo with the child, etc. “Some places”? Really, which exactly? The only case I am aware of in any US jurisdiction where child support is required even in the face of proof of biological non-paternity is for children born in wedlock (s…

Here are three cases from three different states:

https://lawandcrime.com/video/man-legally-forced-to-pay-chil...

https://thefreethoughtproject.com/court-forcing-man-pay-chil...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7591411/Florida-man...

Re: TSA’s “See cash, seize cash” policy

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Post by zepto »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #185
zepto wrote: post #167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> A lot of seized cash is treated as tax-free "bonuses" paid out to officers. Either directly… Is this documented somewhere?

Based on this tweet, no: https://twitter.com/JodyBarr/status/1440856532959170566?s=20

How is that tweet related to whether the money is paid out to officers?

Re: TSA’s “See cash, seize cash” policy

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Post by loloquwowndueo »

kragen wrote: post #157
loloquwowndueo wrote: post #30

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Gee man, it sounds like you live in quite the hell hole. Move to a decent country, you’ll be happier.

Argentina definitely has its disadvantages, but there are advantages too. Healthcare access is universal. University education is free and open to everyone, and although most of the universities are not that great (and none are R1), there are two world-class universities. It's illegal to arrest people for using or having recreational drugs—not generally my thing, but it wasn't Breonna Taylor's thing either, and in th…

“ and the best thieves in the world.”

That’s good, right? :)

Re: TSA’s “See cash, seize cash” policy

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Post by standardUser »

lamontcg wrote: post #79
lotsofpulp wrote: post #16

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Especially when one party seemingly champions “civil rights” or “the little guy”, and the other party champions “small government”. And yet a government employee stealing someone’s cash with no justification does not fall under any of those categories.

One party champions unrestricted capitalism for billionaires, the other party is in the pocket of pharma, banks and other large corporations (and the management-class that work in those businesses). Everything else they say is trying to sell you on something to try to buy your vote. We have one party of the 1% and another party of the 0.0002%.

I think that is over-simplistic, at least since the emergence of a) a genuine progressive faction among the Democrats, small though it may be and b) an insane faction that's taken over the Republicans who seem to mostly represent outspoken racists.
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